Conservatory without Building Regs

leveller2911

macka0 wrote: »

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permission/commonprojects/conservatories/

please read the link especially this bit
However, conservatories are normally exempt from building regulations when:

They are built at ground level and are less than 30 square metres in floor area.
The conservatory is separated from the house by external quality walls, doors or windows.

So did you miss the part which says "Glazing and any fixed electrical installations comply with the applicable building regulations requirements (see below)".

Hence not exempt so you can't fit float glass where regs state toughend.

pmlindyloo

The 2 extra bits!

There should be an independent heating system with separate temperature and on/off controls.
Glazing and any fixed electrical installations comply with the applicable building regulations requirements (see below).


We got there in the end!

macka0

right.... when you apply for planning permission and after it is passed you then pay your money and apply for building regs,work then starts,same for a permitted developement,you do not have to apply and pay for building regs when you build a conservatory even if it needs planning , certain aspects of the work might have to adhere to regs but you dont have to apply for them

leveller2911

macka0 wrote: »

right.... when you apply for planning permission and after it is passed you then pay your money and apply for building regs,work then starts,same for a permitted developement,you do not have to apply and pay for building regs when you build a conservatory even if it needs planning , certain aspects of the work WILL have to adhere to regs but you dont have to apply for them

Nobody said you had to apply for building regs but the work is not exempt from compliance..

Just corrected that for you , glad we got there in the end ..........:D

macka0

It does say that in the very first post :P

Johnandabby

leveller2911 wrote: »

If there are no doors between the conservatory and the house then it needs to comply with Part L of regs IIRC so generally double glazed roof,sealed units ,draught excluders etc .

Therefore it's an extension, not a conservatory. Restrictions then in how much roof and wall glazing is allowed under Part L1B, unless additional insulation improvements, or a boiler replacement, is undertaken in the main house at the same to offset the extra glazing.

Definitely not as easy as including draught excluders.

leveller2911

Johnandabby wrote: »

Therefore it's an extension, not a conservatory. Restrictions then in how much roof and wall glazing is allowed under Part L1B, unless additional insulation improvements, or a boiler replacement, is undertaken in the main house at the same to offset the extra glazing.

Definitely not as easy as including draught excluders.

I never said it did,I was giving examples of what would be needed to comply with regs but as this was a thread about a conservatory it would have added little.

I have also built hundreds of conservatories and many people unwittingly take out the doors separating the conserv from the house, then when they come to sell the house it becomes an issue because it didn't meet regs. Glass area is now a big issue with extensions but not "true" conservatories.

TBH making people jump through more and more hoops when they want to increase the glass area to their extensions is a load of bull.Forcing people to spend £thousands extra just to offset some heat loss and so the Goverment can say the UK is leading the world in energy conservation whilst at the same time the beef,lamb ,pork etc we eat travels half way round the world when we produce our own 5 miles down the road is totally illogical.

Johnandabby

leveller2911 wrote: »

I never said it did,I was giving examples of what would be needed to comply with regs but as this was a thread about a conservatory it would have added little.

But if you mention it then you need to explain the full issue, otherwise readers don't appreciate the full issue here. If its not relevant, then best not to mention it at all

planning_officer

usignuolo wrote: »

Conservatories used to require planning permission but my neighbour told me that things had changed in recent years and theirs did not - because as you say it is not a permanent structure.

Your neighbour is talking codswallop unfortunately. A conservatory is an extension for planning purposes. Planning legislation has never distinguished between a conservatory and a brick extension - they are all assessed in the same way. There is no such thing as a permanent or not permanent structure under planning legislation - and there never has been either. Many conservatories will be 'permitted development', i.e. not requiring a planning application, but that depends on size, location on the property etc (exactly the same applies to brick extensions, timber lean-tos, etc).