MSE News: Half of meat-eaters happy to eat horsemeat

BACKFRMTHEEDGE

frugal_shopper wrote: »

There is a comparison between horsemeat & minced beefs nutritional values here:
http://www.zoeharcombe.com/2013/02/horsemeat-scandal-whats-all-the-fuss-about/

But we're not talking about nice juicy steaks of anything are we? - we're talking about minced meat and for mince to be called "mince" it only needs to be “skeletal muscle with naturally included or adherent fat and connective tissue” to be legal.....gross if you ask me....whatever the animal....and that's the good stuff!

Mechanically separated meat (MSM) and Desinewed meat (DSM) and "Baader meat" and "3mm mince".

• MSM or mechanically separated meat is a red paste produced by forcing fragments of meat from animal bones using high pressure water
• DSM or desinewed meat is produced from the same source but using low pressure. The meat product is said to be more visually akin to a fine mince
• Baader meat is another type of desinewed meat, produced on a low pressure extraction machine made by German company, Baader

or scraps off the bones....

BACKFRMTHEEDGE

Kirri wrote: »

Chinese tomatoes...


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/27/asda-italy-tomato-puree-china

A lot of food that is sold as "fresh" has travelled all around the world and been frozen and defrosted numerous times

Lip_Stick

BACKFRMTHEEDGE wrote: »

But we're not talking about nice juicy steaks of anything are we? - we're talking about minced meat and for mince to be called "mince" it only needs to be “skeletal muscle with naturally included or adherent fat and connective tissue” to be legal.....gross if you ask me....whatever the animal....and that's the good stuff!

Mechanically separated meat (MSM) and Desinewed meat (DSM) and "Baader meat" and "3mm mince".

• MSM or mechanically separated meat is a red paste produced by forcing fragments of meat from animal bones using high pressure water
• DSM or desinewed meat is produced from the same source but using low pressure. The meat product is said to be more visually akin to a fine mince
• Baader meat is another type of desinewed meat, produced on a low pressure extraction machine made by German company, Baader

or scraps off the bones....

It can't be called meat though if it's MSM.

BACKFRMTHEEDGE

Lip_Stick wrote: »

It can't be called meat though if it's MSM.

Apparently, it can.

Legal loophole allows banned mechanical meat in UK sausages

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21530861

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2285807/Cheap-banned-meat-sold-British-sausage-makers-EU-producers-using-loophole-law.html

Also Chicken

One chicken suppler said: 'Declarable MSM is derived from chickens with all the meat and skin in its original format and minced via the Baader machine, all the bones are separated mechanically. This format can be declared as meat in the ingredients.'

BACKFRMTHEEDGE

Tasty? Does it really matter if it's beef or horse?

MavisTheMaven

Kirri wrote: »

Chinese tomatoes...


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/27/asda-italy-tomato-puree-china

Most pine nuts and garlic seems to come from China these days. Regarding the pine nuts, they're not always pine nuts. Got two friends who ate the dodgy ones, you get an unpleasant taste in your mouth for weeks after eating them.

http://www.foodnavigator.com/Legislation/Metallic-tasting-pine-nuts-are-from-illegitimate-Chinese-sources

HMScandal

Whilst these stats are interesting, it somewhat misses the point of the horse meat scandal. This issue is not whether we would want to eat horse meat nor whether it posed a health threat. The issue is that the meat was not what it was purported to be. The retailers will be seeking compensation from their suppliers and we believe that we should be compensated too. Contact us on Twitter @HMScandal to learn how

Fire_Fox

HMScandal wrote: »

Whilst these stats are interesting, it somewhat misses the point of the horse meat scandal. This issue is not whether we would want to eat horse meat nor whether it posed a health threat. The issue is that the meat was not what it was purported to be. The retailers will be seeking compensation from their suppliers and we believe that we should be compensated too. Contact us on Twitter @HMScandal to learn how

Welcome. That's the angle of the media and some members of the public, for others of us the main point is whether it is safe. We each have different priorities opinions and belief systems, from my POV as working in and researching lifestyle healthcare for a couple of decades I could equally well claim you have missed the point.

Edwardia

Lady_Muck wrote: »

Most pine nuts and garlic seems to come from China these days. Regarding the pine nuts, they're not always pine nuts. Got two friends who ate the dodgy ones, you get an unpleasant taste in your mouth for weeks after eating them.

http://www.foodnavigator.com/Legislation/Metallic-tasting-pine-nuts-are-from-illegitimate-Chinese-sources

I found biggish bulbs of garlic from Argentina in Marks and Spencer. I won't buy the Chinese stuff it's horrible.

Here's smoked French garlic
http://www.frenchclick.co.uk/p-4948-ail-fume-filet-tete-x3.aspx

marleyboy

I would be happy to have the choice of horsemeat, whether or not I choose to eat it would be akin to rabbit, pigeon or duck, of which I have tried once and never likely to again.

So long as I know what meat it is I am buying, I know what it is I am cooking. I generally get my mince from the butchers and cook bolognaise, curries or casseroles from fresh, we have had the odd burger or lasagnia from Tesco assuming they were beef. Whether or not they contained any Beef, we still enjoyed them.

Certain brands I will never buy again, they have lost my trust and assurance with their descriptions on the box. If I fancy some horse recipes at some point, I would rather buy the product clearly labelled "horsemeat","minced horse" or "chunks of horse".