Daughter 11 wants to go on a Christian camp

notsobad

suki1001 wrote: »

It is, but you seemed to be basing your opinions of Christians on one person. I'm afraid I assumed your line: "I would be weary" - was giving me advice on the basis of one person and I was pointing out that maybe just going on one experience of a person wasn't enough to put me off socialising with Christians altogether.

I'm not sure if you've read the whole thread, but because I know lots of lovely different christians (and obviously some not so nice) was the whole point of me posting this thread because he seemed so cautious. It was only my husband who was concerned at first.

Yes you are of course allowed an opinion, but I thought you were giving me advice, which maybe given you were basing it on your experience of one person seemed a bit presumptive of a whole group of people, I was simply pointing that out.

Yes I have read the thread thank you.

She is not the only person of religion I know !
I simply posted as I never thought of her as extreme until that moment. I was pointing out the fact 'you just can't tell.'

It makes no difference to me where you send your daughter. She is not my responsibility.

terryw

Worth checking out Alex Gabriel in The Skeptic:
http://www.skeptic.org.uk/magazine/onlinearticles/articlelist/695-soulo-primer

suki1001

notsobad wrote: »

Yes I have read the thread thank you.

She is not the only person of religion I know !
I simply posted as I never thought of her as extreme until that moment. I was pointing out the fact 'you just can't tell.'

It makes no difference to me where you send your daughter. She is not my responsibility.

You just didn't sound like you had going on the questions you asked.

Your post read to me like you were basing your opinion of christians on one person, it's not easy to always get the gist of what someones trying to put in their post. If you had explained the above points then it would have made a lot more sense, you might have thought you were being obvious, but I can only take your post at face value.

Not quite sure about your last two points. I would be quite concerned if you were bothered about my daughter.

My daughter is not your responsibilty - really? Thank you for pointing that out.

suki1001

terryw wrote: »

Worth checking out Alex Gabriel in The Skeptic:
http://www.skeptic.org.uk/magazine/onlinearticles/articlelist/695-soulo-primer

Thanks, had a quick look, although I couldn't find all the posts on the blog, but it was very interesting.

Purleygirl

Well, I was brought up RC, my husband is an atheist and our kids, brought up as Catholic. They have all rejected this religion although they will all admit that they had a positive experience from catholicism. But, they want to do their own thing and I totally respect that. To be honest I wouldn't have cared if my children went to any camp, or church, or temple, or synagogue. They were brought up to respect and tolerate all other religions. Only by exposing children to other religions and beliefs can they make an informed opinion for themselves. Just tell your child to enjoy the holiday for what it is but to make her own opinion about what she hears, to be respectful of other beliefs (I'm sure she is) I can see how your husband is fearful of brainwashing. But I'm sure your child is independent enough of mind to form her own opinions. He just needs to be reassured. I've known a number of happy clappys, including a close family member and they're pretty ok, all they want to do is spread the word...:)

suki1001

Purleygirl wrote: »

Well, I was brought up RC, my husband is an atheist and our kids, brought up as Catholic. They have all rejected this religion although they will all admit that they had a positive experience from catholicism. But, they want to do their own thing and I totally respect that. To be honest I wouldn't have cared if my children went to any camp, or church, or temple, or synagogue. They were brought up to respect and tolerate all other religions. Only by exposing children to other religions and beliefs can they make an informed opinion for themselves. Just tell your child to enjoy the holiday for what it is but to make her own opinion about what she hears, to be respectful of other beliefs (I'm sure she is) I can see how your husband is fearful of brainwashing. But I'm sure your child is independent enough of mind to form her own opinions. He just needs to be reassured. I've known a number of happy clappys, including a close family member and they're pretty ok, all they want to do is spread the word...:)

The problem is if someone is subject to very intense worship, I struggle to see how she can make an informed opinion. And I also feel that given the verosity of some of them, that she might actually find some of it quite frightening. Which is why we would prefer if she was going to go on a Christian camp that it be something less intense. These are not like normal Christian camps. Many who hve been to this one, say really she should be older if she does go.

Given the conversion rate at this one I'm not sure it is a realistic way to come to faith.

I was brought up RC which completely put me off having a faith. I had a miserable childhood because of it.

meritaten

suki - you don't want her to go - so don't let her. She will get over it if you arrange something else she will enjoy.
from what others have said and I have researched about them - I wouldn't let my DD go either.

suki1001

meritaten wrote: »

suki - you don't want her to go - so don't let her. She will get over it if you arrange something else she will enjoy.
from what others have said and I have researched about them - I wouldn't let my DD go either.

Thanks.

She isn't going. But people do keep coming on here and suggesting she should, so I'm just re-iterating my concern and reasons.

System

Suki, if its any consolation all my kids were bought up in a church enviroment but none of them are practising christians. I struggle with it myself at times.

If your not happy about her going dont let her go. Your the adult and she's the child!

suki1001

Judi wrote: »

Suki, if its any consolation all my kids were bought up in a church enviroment but none of them are practising christians. I struggle with it myself at times.

If your not happy about her going dont let her go. Your the adult and she's the child!

I've said lots of times she isn't!