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"the amount the law says you need to live on.."

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  • ILW wrote: »
    There is no law that says how much someone requires to live on.

    Sorry my mistake, I thought there was...
    I think also what you will find happening is to avoid bedroom tax they will start having children to avoid it,putting an even bigger strain on the tax payer....
  • LittleMax
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    ILW wrote: »
    There is no law that says how much someone requires to live on.

    I think you'll find it's included in the Social Security Administration Act 1992 and the amounts are amended each year in an uprating bill.

    The current benefit rates and personal allowances (what the law says you need to live on) are on the DWP website
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    LittleMax wrote: »
    I think you'll find it's included in the Social Security Administration Act 1992 and the amounts are amended each year in an uprating bill.

    The current benefit rates and personal allowances (what the law says you need to live on) are on the DWP website
    Levels of benefits etc are set every year by government. At no point is this based on any law that requires them to be enough to live on.
  • bloolagoon wrote: »
    I suppose with ESA to JSA the difference is the disability but reality is its just a figure plucked out of the air. Why else would a 24 years and 300 days old need £56 and a week later need £71, or from £71 JSA to £124 pension credit.

    Why would someone aged 24yrs and 300 days get £56 and someone 24yrs and 307 days get £71?
  • evenasus
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    annie1975 wrote: »
    I think also what you will find happening is to avoid bedroom tax they will start having children to avoid it,putting an even bigger strain on the tax payer....


    Then there should be a rule brought in quickly, to limit child benefit to two children only.
  • dodger1
    dodger1 Posts: 4,579 Forumite
    shedboy94 wrote: »
    Why would someone aged 24yrs and 300 days get £56 and someone 24yrs and 307 days get £71?

    Possibly they live on the planet Zog which orbits it's star every 307 days :D
    It's someone else's fault.
  • bloolagoon wrote: »
    Why else would a 24 years and 300 days old need £56 and a week later need £71

    There are 365 days in a year.
    RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
    Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.


  • real1314
    real1314 Posts: 4,432 Forumite
    The amount you need to live on is a figure determined by the govt to ensure a minimum standard of living.

    This is incorrect. There is no link between the amount payable and any standard of living.
  • evenasus wrote: »
    Then there should be a rule brought in quickly, to limit child benefit to two children only.

    It should have been brought in a long time ago.
  • missapril75
    missapril75 Posts: 1,669 Forumite
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    Obviously the fact that people may receive less (or more) than laid down rates means there is no strict law about what one absolutely must have to live on.

    It doesn't change the fact that the government, via its agency, does issue forms which repeatedly use an expression that describes what the law says one needs to live on.

    That people believe it means what it says is not unreasonable.
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