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Labour cares about the NHS so much...

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  • zagubov
    zagubov Posts: 17,939 Forumite
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    Years ago I remember someone wrote into a paper arguing against cuts to welfare and they made the excellent point/s that we weren't third world country nor were we at war.

    Thanks a bunch to war-mongering Tony for ruining the second half of that argument.:(
    There is no honour to be had in not knowing a thing that can be known - Danny Baker
  • PaulF81
    PaulF81 Posts: 1,727 Forumite
    If more people worked, meaningfully, and fully contributed, taxation individually or at corporate level wouldn't need to be so high.

    The most you can currently get is £107.45 per week.

    https://www.gov.uk/state-pension

    Massive that. For a minimum of 40 years of contribution. Would barely fill up the average saloon car.

    People on JSA exist on far less. Whilst having to find accommodation costs. By pensionble age, you shouldnt have any debt anyhow.
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    PaulF81 wrote: »
    People on JSA exist on far less. Whilst having to find accommodation costs. By pensionble age, you shouldnt have any debt anyhow.

    So pensioners don't need to live anywhere?

    Not all pensioners have gold plated pensions, live in mortgage free mansions and have with investment portfolios or even just a shadow of one of them.

    JSA is in the title - they are working age and should be in a job.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • PaulF81
    PaulF81 Posts: 1,727 Forumite
    So pensioners don't need to live anywhere?

    Not all pensioners have gold plated pensions, live in mortgage free mansions and have with investment portfolios or even just a shadow of one of them.

    JSA is in the title - they are working age and should be in a job.

    800 quid (what a couple receive on the state pension) is about 200 quid more than what we live on minus the mortgage.
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    PaulF81 wrote: »
    800 quid (what a couple receive on the state pension) is about 200 quid more than what we live on minus the mortgage.

    To get that both pensioners will have had to make their full NI contribution, very few will have.

    A good number of pensioners are in fact living alone.

    The money they receive isn't just a holiday fund surprisingly they still have obligations.

    You chose the commitment.

    You will of course be of to sunny climes soon so no need to worry then.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • PaulF81
    PaulF81 Posts: 1,727 Forumite
    Very true. But we all pick are own destiny, pensioners included.
  • PaulF81 wrote: »
    Very true. But we all pick are own destiny, pensioners included.

    You are making choices for your own destiny based on information you have available to you now as they did 40 + years, on information available to them, when the world was very different.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
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