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When will UK interest rates rise? - Markets Suggest 1% is still 5 years away!

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  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    Maybe. I think we can all agree that we won't see BoE rates at 4 or 5% any time in this decade. :)

    I'm sure that in 2005 we would have all agreed there would be no chance of seeing 2% rates, let alone 0.5% rates in that decade.

    Things change. Quickly.
  • seems amazing that they were once 4 or 5% i dont think we will see that again
    Can't see that happening at all. We'll be lucky to breach 1% for a couple years yet IMO.
    Maybe. I think we can all agree that we won't see BoE rates at 4 or 5% any time in this decade. :)

    A trio of consensus. When everyone is the same side of the boat you can bet its not going to go to plan


    We wont see 4 or 5%. We'll skip from 3 to 6 maybe, which should be impossible no doubt but the idea we are just like Japan is even more inaccurate unfortunately.
    We dont have their savings, their trade balance was well in their favour even in 'recession'. They had alot in reserve and in their business to choose a path, we wont be choosing our rates unless we somehow make as much profitable business as they did
  • Harry_Boyle
    Harry_Boyle Posts: 265 Forumite
    edited 21 February 2013 at 12:59PM
    I'm sure that in 2005 we would have all agreed there would be no chance of seeing 2% rates, let alone 0.5% rates in that decade.

    Things change. Quickly.

    I'm sure Japan's Gurahamu_Debon was saying the exact same thing in 1996.

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    Then again, Japan has a huge national debt, contracting economy, falling incomes and austerity measures, so there is no comparison with the UK. Yep, our rates will go up soon. :)
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    yes, but could be years away, maybe 10 ? not going to happen in the next couple of years, or we could be like japan and have low interest rates for 20 years,

    when do you think rates will be 5% how many years away?

    Your guess is as good as mine but the balance of probability suggests it will happen.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jan/13/interest-rates-uk-since-1694

    Roll over the line to get the data - choose which time period you want with the date sliders at the bottom. Chart full size
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  • DervProf
    DervProf Posts: 4,035 Forumite
    It seems that a base rate of 2% might be some years away.

    Having said that, and as Graham pointed out, back in 2005, nobody would have thought that the base rate would go as low as 0.5%.

    It must be somewhat comforting to someone with a large mortgage that it looks like rates will be staying low for a while (because they`ve been low for a while). I suppose if you keep telling yourself that rates won't be going up much for a long while, then you can convince yourself that they are guaranteed not to. One thing is for sure, life often throws up unexpected suprises, and the best thing you can do is try to prepare yourself in case those suprises are not so pleasant.

    I think I stated earlier that I don't think that rates are going very far in the next year or two, beyond that, who knows for sure ?
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  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    DervProf wrote: »
    It must be somewhat comforting to someone with a large mortgage that it looks like rates will be staying low for a while (because they`ve been low for a while). I suppose if you keep telling yourself that rates won't be going up much for a long while, then you can convince yourself that they are guaranteed not to.

    As far as I can tell Renoman (I assume that's the 'someone'?) is arguing that rates will stay low for an extended period. There's no doubt that he hopes they'll stay low.

    I've always thought that Renoman can identify the difference between what is a hope and what is an expectation. Being able to see the difference is skill that isn't widely possessed.
  • Harry_Boyle
    Harry_Boyle Posts: 265 Forumite
    edited 21 February 2013 at 3:01PM
    DervProf wrote: »
    It seems that a base rate of 2% might be some years away.

    Having said that, and as Graham pointed out, back in 2005, nobody would have thought that the base rate would go as low as 0.5%.

    It must be somewhat comforting to someone with a large mortgage that it looks like rates will be staying low for a while (because they`ve been low for a while). I suppose if you keep telling yourself that rates won't be going up much for a long while, then you can convince yourself that they are guaranteed not to. One thing is for sure, life often throws up unexpected suprises, and the best thing you can do is try to prepare yourself in case those suprises are not so pleasant.

    I think I stated earlier that I don't think that rates are going very far in the next year or two, beyond that, who knows for sure ?

    As the old adage goes, "hope for the best and prepare for the worst". With 5 year fixes at historical lows it seems a good plan for anyone with a large mortgage to hedge their bets and sort out a 5 year fix.

    I have seen a 5 year fix with First Direct at 2.69%, which is probably the sort of rate that many people are getting on their trackers (my own rate has been 2.54% for the past 3 years). No unexpected surprises and 5 years to blitz a mortgage. Top notch. :)
  • Oh no, here we go again.
  • wotsthat wrote: »
    As far as I can tell Renoman (I assume that's the 'someone'?) is arguing that rates will stay low for an extended period. There's no doubt that he hopes they'll stay low.

    I've always thought that Renoman can identify the difference between what is a hope and what is an expectation. Being able to see the difference is skill that isn't widely possessed.

    Derv swore that he wasn't obsessed with this 'RenoMan' character and that to prove it he won't be referencing him ever again in discussions. He swore that if he did refer to him again, then it proved he was obsessed and he wanted us to section him. Do you think Derv is still obsessing? I have "The Martin Lewis Sanitorium for the Forumnally Crazed" administrator on standby for him.......
    Oh no, here we go again.

    Indeed. Are you ready to receive the patient, Dr. Pricklepants?
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    Derv swore that he wasn't obsessed with this 'RenoMan' character and that to prove it he won't be referencing him ever again in discussions. He swore that if he did refer to him again, then it proved he was obsessed and he wanted us to section him. Do you think Derv is still obsessing? I have "The Martin Lewis Sanitorium for the Forumnally Crazed" administrator on standby for him.......



    Indeed. Are you ready to receive the patient, Dr. Pricklepants?

    I didn't think Derv did, thought it was wotsthat that did. Derv just said somone.

    P.S. I know you can
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