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LivingSocial iPhone 5 2m USB lead
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Anyone bought one of these? It has the mini iPhone 5 connector and supposedly allows to an extra length to get in to awkward places.
The trouble is mine will not work - at all - and experience shows (with extended iPad 2 leads ) that long leads do not provide the voltage required to permit charging. I had thought, however, TA if they were selling the product, it would a least do what it said on the tin.
Emails are ignored, and I'm about to chargeback under SOGA, but would e interested if anyone got theirs to work - it was on sale 2 weeks ago.
The trouble is mine will not work - at all - and experience shows (with extended iPad 2 leads ) that long leads do not provide the voltage required to permit charging. I had thought, however, TA if they were selling the product, it would a least do what it said on the tin.
Emails are ignored, and I'm about to chargeback under SOGA, but would e interested if anyone got theirs to work - it was on sale 2 weeks ago.
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Whilst not an iPhone, I have used a three metre USB cable to charge numerous phones without issue. Are you using the genuine charger with it? Just that some cheap ones only supply 500mA (as apposed to 1000+) which may be to little for the longer cable.0
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The voltage drop depends on the wire cross-section, not only on the length. And the higher the current, the bigger the voltage loss.I have used a three metre USB cable to charge numerous phones without issue. Are you using the genuine charger with it? Just that some cheap ones only supply 500mA (as apposed to 1000+) which may be to little for the longer cable.0 -
The problem with USB cables for the iPhone 5, iPad 4 and iPad mini is that they have an authenticity chip inside the connector that goes into the Apple device. The device checks that the chip is present before allowing charging. Apple implemented this as an anti-competitive attempt to prevent third party manufacturers from producing their own cables. However, within a few weeks of the iPhone 5 being on the market, the Chinese managed to copy the chip and produce cheap third party cables. Third party chips are often unreliable though, hence the problems you are experiencing.0
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It's not the voltage that reduces over distance as that remains constant.The trouble is mine will not work - at all - and experience shows (with extended iPad 2 leads ) that long leads do not provide the voltage required to permit charging. I had thought, however, TA if they were selling the product, it would a least do what it said on the tin.
What does reduce is amperage which is the power of the current and to have a dramatic affect over a meter or so would probably start at a very low amperage.
As NFH says the chip theory sounds likely if thats how it works but suppose either way the lead is faulty and needs returning or rejectingIt's not just about the money0 -
I think reading about the chips that every time an update is released could potentially stop a 3rd party accessory from working. They released an update in the last few days/week (voda told me to download this one, and not to update on the prior one!)
So this could be the problem. If you have an older device with the lightning socket on it, ie one not on the same ios version as you, you could try it to see if that works.
I suspect the chips will always be a constant problem till someone can fix them permanently, if possible.
If you need a little bit extra length, use the original lead and see if an USB extension lead would work.0 -
Chargeback is Visa/Mastercard procedure that has nothing to do with SOGA.
You are talking about something not mentioned. I intend doing a chargeback under SOGA (perhaps 'involuntary refund' would be more accurate). The difference is in the use of the capitalisation.
I'm quite aware of the various issues of the verification chip in the plug, my query was prompted wanting to discover whether anyone got these LS leads to do anything useful - if not, then not only is the deal invalid, but the product not fit for the purpose it was supposedly designed for.0 -
It's not the voltage that reduces over distance as that remains constant.
What does reduce is amperage which is the power of the current and to have a dramatic affect over a meter or so would probably start at a very low amperage.
As NFH says the chip theory sounds likely if thats how it works but suppose either way the lead is faulty and needs returning or rejecting
No, voltage will drop.0 -
Well strictly speaking I suppose it would but it's miniscule.No, voltage will drop.
I think 12 volts dc works out about 1.5 volts drop over something like 50 meters or something like that.
So the 2mtr cable would only drop to 11.94 volts so like I said earlier to have a dramatic effect the amperage would have to be realy low to be noticeableIt's not just about the money0 -
What really matters is the current. 12 volts is absolutely irrelevant figure. And again, it depends on the cable, not just the length.I think 12 volts dc works out about 1.5 volts drop over something like 50 meters or something like that.
Silk, have you ever heard of the Ohm's law?:think:0
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