Advice Please: is this a good deal for 19 year old?

mattyprice4004

rev_henry wrote: »

Well personally I think you and his grandmother are completely insane.

I have to agree, when you do the maths it's a mad choice.

Besides, I've driven a Rio and he'll probably get bored after a year. I couldn't believe how dull it felt.

funkycoldribena

The op does realise its got a compulsory black box dont they? Or have I missed that bit?

arcon5

worried_jim wrote: »

Strewth! Some people need a lesson in economics. Sit down and add up the total cost of buying and running a new car, factor in the massive depreciation. Now work out the bill for running a ten year old car that cost less than £1k. See the difference, that's what you are wasting on your seven years trouble free motoring.

Based on that logic in 10 years time there will be no reasonable used cars out there since factorys cannot produce cars if nobody is buying new.

Not everybody is simply out to get the cheapest option. Otherwise we would all buy Tesco beans and Heinz wouldn't be selling any

barbiedoll

There's no way I'd let a 18 yr-old newly qualified [STRIKE]show-off[/STRIKE] male driver anywhere near a brand new car. Not that he'll be doing 120mph on the motorway in a Kia I suppose but the urge to race around the local estate/country lanes/dual carriageway is irresistable at that age and if you ask me, it's asking for trouble. Does the "black box" include a speed limiter? If he's got a cute girl next to him or a back seat full of his testosterone-fuelled mates egging him on, I can't see a black box stopping him from tearing around corners in 4th gear :eek:

Personally, I think it's a good idea to start with a banger, there's nothing like the feeling of trying to ram your aging gearbox into 2nd gear whilst crawling away at the lights! And the thrill of never quite being certain that you're going to make the journey is a force for the good if it means that you are extra careful to check your fluid levels, tyres and lights at regular intervals, all good habits to cultivate, even when you have a new car.

I'm hopefully getting a new Kia soon, on a work lease scheme. I've only seen old ladies driving them so far, so the fact that an 18 year old is buying one by choice, makes me feel so much better!

bouncydog1

DD had the choice of a new car or an older car - not quite banger territory. She opted for the older car as she was worried about the responsibility of looking after a new car and she also wanted to be the same as her friends.

Three years on she still has the older car, which is cheap to run, cheap on insurance, has been very reliable (long may it continue) and servicing costs are low.

She had been talking about treating herself to a mini cooper convertible for her 21st, but has now decided to keep her original car and keep the mini fund towards a house deposit.

Personally I think she has been very sensible - she worked out the depreciation etc and decided that it simply was not worth it. Historically we have always bought brand new but not any more - far better to go for a better brand second hand model and let somebody else take the depreciation hit and any potential problems that the new vehicle is going to have.

victorias_dad

I have not read all the posts on this thread but i have to say as the father of a 19yr old who passed his test on wednesday I think some of the posts are not being realistic in todays climate, we bought him a peugeot 206 1.4 (no difference for a 1.1) which we have fixed up, we nearly died when we started getting insurance quotes the most expensive was £18k the lowest£ 9.5k with some companies so embarassed at the premium they wouldn't even disclose it. For the crack we got a quote on a old 205 that came in at £39k he has no ncb or convictions so I would say to the op go for it. Unless you have a teenager trying to get insurance then you have no idea what it's like. The days of insuring the cheap banger are long gone.

gilbert_and_sullivan

ChopinonaBudget wrote: »

Are there any left on the roads anywhere?

I still see the odd one, many of the best ones owned from new and maintained well by older people were disposed of in the ill advised Scrappage scheme.

Too many of these good little cars were bought by a certain type who knowing how good they were then neglected them and ran them ragged and crashed them, hence so many have vanished.

Lots of Toyota Starlets went similarly as did the really nice curvy Honda Civic 3 door 1.3's.

I transported a lot of the scrappage cars, the waste and destruction of really good ultra low mileage well cared for cars would make a grown man cry, politicians brainwave again, they should be locked up for our safety.

ChopinonaBudget

gilbert_and_sullivan wrote: »

I still see the odd one, many of the best ones owned from new and maintained well by older people were disposed of in the ill advised Scrappage scheme.

Too many of these good little cars were bought by a certain type who knowing how good they were then neglected them and ran them ragged and crashed them, hence so many have vanished.

Lots of Toyota Starlets went similarly as did the really nice curvy Honda Civic 3 door 1.3's.

I transported a lot of the scrappage cars, the waste and destruction of really good ultra low mileage well cared for cars would make a grown man cry, politicians brainwave again, they should be locked up for our safety.

In couldn't agree more. Utterly idiotic idea.

I remember the starlets, gorgeous little things. Funnily enough, my mum had one before she upgraded to the micra.

rev_henry

gilbert_and_sullivan wrote: »

I still see the odd one, many of the best ones owned from new and maintained well by older people were disposed of in the ill advised Scrappage scheme.

Too many of these good little cars were bought by a certain type who knowing how good they were then neglected them and ran them ragged and crashed them, hence so many have vanished.

Lots of Toyota Starlets went similarly as did the really nice curvy Honda Civic 3 door 1.3's.

I transported a lot of the scrappage cars, the waste and destruction of really good ultra low mileage well cared for cars would make a grown man cry, politicians brainwave again, they should be locked up for our safety.

I was buying my first car around that time. Cheap small cars were thus harder to come by. I remember reading about wonderful classic morris minors etc, all being scrapped.