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ParkingEye fine - Scotland

I felt quite encouraged reading another ParkingEye thread (as a newb i'm not able to link to it), but would request some advice on my own situation if possible?

I collected my mum from Glasgow airport last week. Her flight was delayed slightly so i drove into the Travelodge car park and sat there. I didn 't go into a parking bay (although the car park was almost empty), and I did not leave the car at all.

Didn't see any signs displayed in respect of charges - thought i was just waiting somewhere quiet off the beaten track!

Received a £100 non-payment charge today : works out at over £4 a minute!

I've read about the fact this isn't a legitimate PCN, but do I make any effort to try and appeal, or just ignore it?

Thanks in advance for any advice :)

Comments

  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 155,731 Forumite
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    100% ignore it because in Scotland you don't have the new POPLA appeal system that costs PPCs money. So there is NO POINT in appealing to the PPC themselves as that's all a sham. There is NO APPEAL with Parking Eye fake PCNs issued in Scotland.

    Like all the other posters on this board, you are just the proud owner of a fake PCN, a misleading invoice. A piece of rubbish, as are the threatogram letters that follow it.

    The whole scam of fake PCNs relies firstly on people's ignorance of the fact that a random private company can't fine anyone, and secondly on their natural fear of parking tickets and the escalating costs/bailiff scenario. So PPCs copy the look of a real parking ticket and - hey presto! - the cash rolls in from victims who know no better.

    This is not a penalty at all. It's rubbish, there are no bailiffs letters, just debt collector standard template threatograms (all hot air, we can tell you this for certain).

    Tick off the threatening letters as you get them, here. If you get a 'new' letter for Parking Eye please send a pic of it (suitably redacted to make it anonymous) to Crabman who is the thread starter of the letter-chains thread.

    Watchdog clip with expert Solicitor's opinion here.

    Barrister's opinion on a legal Q&A website here.

    Recent Auto Express article here.

    The letters are actually quite funny when they arrive at the address of someone who knows it's all hogwash and not a real parking ticket at all.

    My 18 year old niece has EIGHT fake PCNs so far and laughs & texts me every time she gets one. She is just a new driver, a teenager, and she knows this is all a con like a series of phishing emails.

    I would happily collect more fake PCNs than the 2 that I already have for Supermarket overstays (more than an hour overstays, both times when shopping at busy times). Plus I have a nice collection of amusing/alarmist debt collector letters which I carry in my handbag to show friends & colleagues if the subject crops up! :rotfl:
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • PE are easy to ignore in Scotland. Me and Mrs theHibby have done it a few times between us.

    Sit back, relax and remember they can't touch you for their scam invoice.
  • Thanks guys - appreciated :)
  • pogofish
    pogofish Posts: 10,853 Forumite
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    Yup - POFA does not apply in Scotland, so no Keeper Liability or POPLA appeals. The only effective and practical option is to IGNORE them totally. Just expect a series of ever more hysterical letters and every time you get one, PE back themselves even further away from any chance of doing anything to you.

    In fact Parking Eye themselves don't even seem to know we are in a different country because all the letters I've ever had from them are couched in English Law and I'd imagine a Scottish court would make mince of them in no time if they ever were to seriously try and pursue someone.

    So just file and forget the jokers! :)
  • Kite2010
    Kite2010 Posts: 4,308 Forumite
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    Poor Parking Eye, there goes another £100 loss they have suffered which will need to be wrote off.

    You would think with those losing money so badly they would do something to sort out the issue of making £100 losses every time someone forgets to pay for a 20 minute stay in a travel-lodge car-park
  • prosnap
    prosnap Posts: 399 Forumite
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    Kite2010 wrote: »
    Poor Parking Eye, there goes another £100 loss they have suffered which will need to be wrote off.

    Not much of a problem when over half of the people scammed pay up after the first letter!
    The word "gullible" isn't in the dictionary
    Tickets: 19 [cancelled: 18, paid: 0, pending: 1]
    PPC Appeals: 8 [accepted: 2, rejected: 5, pending: 1]
    POPLA: 4 [accepted: 4, rejected: 0, pending: 0]
  • Fergie76
    Fergie76 Posts: 2,293 Forumite
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    prosnap wrote: »
    Not much of a problem when over half of the people scammed pay up after the first letter!

    But when £100 is their 'actual' loss... :rotfl:
  • Half_way
    Half_way Posts: 7,556 Forumite
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    It doesnt matter if you left the car or didnt you were still parked.
    However what does matter is the real loss that you caused the landowner by your actions, if you didnt cause any damage by your actions, and the car park wasnt full then the losses are zero, and that is what you owe.
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
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