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anniemac1973

Thanks for all the information although im still very confused.Also you say 35 hours is not full time it is classed as full time in the Primary school where i work,i cannot get more than 35.If this government is gonna force people out of work to look for work then i expect huge problems ahead.Finally i was mistaken my husband receives middle rate care not lower rate.

princessdon

anniemac1973 wrote: »

Thanks for all the information although im still very confused.Also you say 35 hours is not full time it is classed as full time in the Primary school where i work,i cannot get more than 35.If this government is gonna force people out of work to look for work then i expect huge problems ahead.Finally i was mistaken my husband receives middle rate care not lower rate.

35 hrs is just your contract as a teacher mine is 37.5 hrs and my hubby (none education) is 40 hours. You would not be 100% on 35 hrs term time.

anniemac1973

So what is classified as Full time work? So if i cant get full time i will be expected to make the difference up? What a farce im being punished for the type of job i do while the girl who lives 3 doors down and is carrying her 5th child is by far better off than me.Good old UK where it pays NOT to work.Oh and before i forget my husband was a Taxi driver who used to work 60 hours plus per week before being crashed into by 2 stolen cars racing each other.

chris1973

I'm just wondering where all these full times jobs everyone is expected to take are

Different areas vary of course but we had a full time job advertised in our factory for the best part of 11 weeks before it got filled. Not the best job in the world granted, sticking rubber feet onto plastic boxes for 8 hours a day but it paid reasonably well for unskilled work, certainly well above minimum wage.

We had plenty of dis-interested looking applicants, clearly non of whom had bothered to research what the company did or what we actually made - (no doubt making up their quota for JSA entitlement). For some reason it was the 'no talking & mobile phone off during working hours' shopfloor policy which caused visible shock and horror amongst the majority of applicants.

I suppose its a matter of priorities and a fine balance for some people, working quietly between breaks, and earning a reasonable day's pay for a reasonable days' work five days a week, or texting their mates and playing on Facebook

The only way we could get it filled was to employ two semi-retired ladies on a part time, job share basis, I guess the work ethic largely only exists in the older generation, in this area at least.

I fully appreciate that areas are different as are the levels of unemployment but for the last few years we have really struggled to fill vacancies, even for part time cleaners or clerical staff.

If any vacancies come up in the future then if a suitable forum section exists, i'll happy post them up here.

princessdon

anniemac1973 wrote: »

So what is classified as Full time work? So if i cant get full time i will be expected to make the difference up? What a farce im being punished for the type of job i do while the girl who lives 3 doors down and is carrying her 5th child is by far better off than me.Good old UK where it pays NOT to work.Oh and before i forget my husband was a Taxi driver who used to work 60 hours plus per week before being crashed into by 2 stolen cars racing each other.

No the Govt has set it at 35 hrs per week (which is less than what companies do, I think 37.5 is the norm as 18.5 hrs are normally a 0.5 post).

As I said, you are coppers off anyway at 28 hours, I am fairly sure your OH has no conditionality so you will probably be BETTER off when the disregard for earnings are taken into account. It's hard when the calulcators aren't accurate to give exact figures, but with the £50 disregard, your wages (over NMW), your current hours of 28, I wouldn't anticipate a huge change to be honest.

It's the fit and healthy 2 adults working 24 hours a week between them and the "businesses" that bring in zero money with a 2nd adult at home that will be the ones mainly affected.

zagfles

princessdon wrote: »

The other thing people forget is that they can take the amount and opt of conditionality. Eg accept in your case an annual of £11k pa and have the award based on that.

That was in the briefing notes but I couldn't find it in the regulations. But I may have missed it, the regulations are very hard reading...

TeaCake

I work in education at 30 hours a week with no room to increase my hours. Does this mean I will need to take a second job to get UC or will I have to 'sign on' to keep up my income?

zagfles

TeaCake wrote: »

I work in education at 30 hours a week with no room to increase my hours. Does this mean I will need to take a second job to get UC or will I have to 'sign on' to keep up my income?

Are you on NMW?

TeaCake

Just above nmw.

princessdon

zagfles wrote: »

That was in the briefing notes but I couldn't find it in the regulations. But I may have missed it, the regulations are very hard reading...

It infers it but yes it's not explicit. I have no idea in reality how it will work, especially for those working say 30 hours a week, it's not clear at all.

Will they accept emails looking for jobs or will they expect a full sign on? Not very clear at the moment.