G24 and CCS Collect

Sandypan

Thank you Guy's dad - it was stupid on my part, I now realise and I definately wouldn't do it again.

Coupon-mad

Sandypan wrote: »

Thank you Guy's dad - it was stupid on my part, I now realise and I definitely wouldn't do it again.

You are not going to pay though are you?

Sandypan

In a turmoil - I should have bought ticket but didn't. Can't afford £60 is the company that I used likely to be chasing me for this?

Guys_Dad

Sandypan wrote: »

In a turmoil - I should have bought ticket but didn't. Can't afford £60 is the company that I used likely to be chasing me for this?

Yes, despite the error on your part by not buying a ticket, don't pay the PCN. The amount is totally ridiculous and is better in your pocket than theirs.

Please do read some threads and make your mind up about what to do. For my part, and others may disagree, I believe that using a facility, albeit for a short time, and not paying the fee would be harder to win an appeal from POPLA on than some other cases and, therefore, if it was me, I would ignore them, knowing that there is a small risk it could land me in court with an increased amount to pay if I lost.

At the end of the day, it's your call, but the odds are with you if you face them off.

Kite2010

Sandypan wrote: »

In a turmoil - I should have bought ticket but didn't. Can't afford £60 is the company that I used likely to be chasing me for this?

Find out whom the landowner is and how much you were meant to have paid, and send them a cheque.

In the very unlikely event the PPC tries court, you have shown attempts at paying the landowner's damages.

Erginus

Parking cowboys have a challenge/appeal letter template which they have posted on PepiPoo for comments/feedback.
http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=78031

They were on version 2 (v2) when I looked earlier. I'd love to see the VCS reply to that after you've tweaked and sent it. When they mess up with answering the questions they will be in breach in terms of their code of practice, their use of DVLA data and protocol procedures in any small claims court case they are daft enough to bring. But there will be no court claim. They will be stopped in their tracks before that by the POPLA assessor. And they must give you a POPLA code if they want to continue. People here will help you with that but I don't think you will hear anything substantive from them again.

Crabman, this VCS stuff is hijacking the OP's G24 thread. Could the VCS posts be moved to their own thread? And what news of G24 nemesis SodG4? No PPR I see.

Coupon-mad

Sandypan wrote: »

In a turmoil - I should have bought ticket but didn't. Can't afford £60 is the company that I used likely to be chasing me for this?

If you appeal it and win the appeal at the second stage (POPLA) if this was England/Wales then it will be cancelled so why would you be in turmoil? Of course the PPC will send you letters if you do nothing but even if you ignore it, or don't win at POPLA, nothing is likely to happen as most PPCs never try Court (VCS got their fingers burnt when they tried last year, read VCS -v- Ibbotson, a very rare and very botched attempt). You DO NOT have to pay this!

ONLY MUGS pay a fake PCN. :eek:
Their letters are nothing to worry about - the PPC will just have your fake PCN on a huge list - a bit like phishing emailers have a list of email addresses - and if you ignore it they will just spam you with the usual threatograms in the hope that some idiots will panic and pay.

Like all the other posters on this board, you have a fake PCN.

The whole scam of fake PCNs relies firstly on people's ignorance of the fact that a random private company can't fine anyone, and secondly on their natural fear of parking tickets and the escalating costs/bailiff scenario. So PPCs copy the look of a real parking ticket and - hey presto! - the cash rolls in from victims who know no better.

This is not a penalty at all. It's rubbish, there are no bailiffs letters, just debt collector standard template threatograms.

Tick off the threatening letters as you get them, here.

Watchdog clip with expert Solicitor's opinion here.

Barrister's opinion on a legal Q&A website here.

The letters are actually quite funny when they arrive at the address of someone who knows it's all hogwash and not a real parking ticket at all.

My 18 year old niece has EIGHT fake PCNs so far and laughs & texts me every time she gets one. She is just a new driver, a teenager, and she knows this is all a con like a series of phishing emails.

Having said that, the advice we give now is to usually recommend a strong appeal, not as you would think but more along the lines of the 'legal challenge' already linked. And you could certainly send the missed parking charge to the landowner/retailer as an offer without admission but in full and final settlement (a fiver maybe in a postal order).

Then come back and get help with an even stronger POPLA appeal.

Or just ignore the whole letter chain and do not waver. Your choice.

BUT DON'T FLIPPIN' PAY THEM! :eek:

Keeby

sapper0 wrote: »

Dear All. My wife received a CPCN from G24 in November after we over stayed the 3hrs limit by 20 minutes at Meadowhall Retail Park one evening on a visit to Cineworld. Having read all the forum posts on these blaggers we have studiously ignored all correspondance. We have just received a Yellow headed Notice of Intended Action from CCS dated the 1st, it didn't arrive until the 7th, giving us until the 8th to pay up. I fully intend to ignore this as well but my wife is getting a bit concerned about a baliff turning up on the door step. Can you give us some reassurance please that we are doing the right thing in treating these vermin with the contempt they deserve and ignoring them. Thanks

My daughter has had a couple of these notices after she was covering a couple of shifts at one of the stores at the retail park. The company even rang G24 after the first one telling them she was working there but she got another one the next time she worked there.

We've ignored the letters but now keep getting telephone calls for her from CCS. She's working abroad at the moment. Any advice on how to stop the calls or do we just continue to ignore them?

Umkomaas

Keeby wrote: »

My daughter has had a couple of these notices after she was covering a couple of shifts at one of the stores at the retail park. The company even rang G24 after the first one telling them she was working there but she got another one the next time she worked there.

We've ignored the letters but now keep getting telephone calls for her from CCS. She's working abroad at the moment. Any advice on how to stop the calls or do we just continue to ignore them?

Just politely tell them 'The debt is denied, please refer this back to your client. Any further calls from CCS will be treated as harassment'

This should then get CCS off your backs. Then see if G24 come back, if so please open a new thread (tagging on to someone else's leads to confusion as to whom the advice given from here is directed), and help will come.

HTH