Why did they edit Crocodile Dundee???

liviboy

And yet, when QI is repeated on Dave, frequently during the day it is shown including words like s h i t during the afternoon!

Azari

SpammyTheSpammer wrote: »

From wikipedia: -

"On the commercial channels, the amount of airtime allowed by the UK broadcasting regulator Ofcom for advertising is an overall average of 7 minutes per hour, with limits of 12 minutes for any particular clock hour (8 minutes per hour between 6pm and 11pm)."

Based on this, the cuts would be a minimum of 8 minutes for each hour of film with a possible maximum 12 minutes for an hour - go figure how much of those films original content is left after this commercial excission.

That makes no sense.

They don't take an xxx min film and give it an xxx min slot then excise 8 mins for advertising.

They'll decide how long a slot they want to fill, then trim the film to fit that length, minus the required advertising.

So if they have a 100 min film in a 2 hour slot with 20 mins of advertising, trailers, etc, then the film does not need to be trimmed at all.

On the other hand, an 82 min film in a 90 min slot with 12 mins of ads, etc, will need four minutes trimmed.

System

liviboy wrote: »

And yet, when QI is repeated on Dave, frequently during the day it is shown including words like s h i t during the afternoon!

What I noticed the other day is they often censor the film but not the subtitles. So on screen it's missed but you get the swear words written in all their glory! I just hope the deaf kids can't read

System

Azari wrote: »

That makes no sense.

They don't take an xxx min film and give it an xxx min slot then excise 8 mins for advertising.

They'll decide how long a slot they want to fill, then trim the film to fit that length, minus the required advertising.

So if they have a 100 min film in a 2 hour slot with 20 mins of advertising, trailers, etc, then the film does not need to be trimmed at all.

On the other hand, an 82 min film in a 90 min slot with 12 mins of ads, etc, will need four minutes trimmed.

You have to remember a 100 minute film is only really 90 minutes as they have around 10 minutes of closing titles that are not shown after a film is on tv. You get a bit of it but not the whole lot. I suspect that is where most films are cut.

CharlieBilly

I never watch films that are broadcast for that reason edited because of certain scenes or time, time constraints or adverts

Azari

goater78 wrote: »

You have to remember a 100 minute film is only really 90 minutes as they have around 10 minutes of closing titles that are not shown after a film is on tv. You get a bit of it but not the whole lot. I suspect that is where most films are cut.

True, but not really relevant since it just gives you a different initial length.

The point is that they start of with a certain length of film (including whatever credits they intend showing and discounting anything they wish to censor) and then have to fit that into a given slot - the nominal start to end time minus commercials, news, announcements, and trailers.

If the film is too long they need to excise scenes and if it's too short they need to add extra 'fluff' such as the trailers for upcoming programmes that you sometimes see at the end of ad breaks.

SpammyTheSpammer

Apologies - what I meant to state was that for every hour of commercial TV after 21:00, you will not be seeing more than 52 minutes of actual program as a minimum of 8 minutes is excised ("cut") for the commercial breaks and this can stretch to 12 minutes in one particular hour. So, over a 2 hour period, you can expect to see 20 minutes of advertisements. In addition, you could also see several minutes of channel information aka "Something better is coming after this, stay tuned" (sic!). So you are lucky to get 100 minutes of program over a 2 hour period after 21:00

I could and should have phrased this better, and your explanation was more precise. Thanks.

Incidentally, I am informed that it is a contractual obligation to show the credits on most programs - that is why they now cram these credits into a side corner of the screen and start rolling out information about what you could be watching if you stay tuned...

VT82

goater78 wrote: »

You have to remember a 100 minute film is only really 90 minutes as they have around 10 minutes of closing titles that are not shown after a film is on tv. You get a bit of it but not the whole lot. I suspect that is where most films are cut.

This.

In the TV version, they can't scroll the credits fast enough! You can almost feel the TV programming managers' fury at end credits that have video snippets in, so that they can't be sped up. As soon as this bit is over, 10 minutes of credits are cut to 10 seconds. Good job too (unless you're an aggrieved 'Best Boy' or 'Gaffer', or you like the title music!).

So all the other maths based on IMDB's full running times is wrong.

SpammyTheSpammer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closing_credits

maximum of 8 minutes


Quiz:
Name three filmsthat have closing credit sequences of 10 minutes or longer...

System

SpammyTheSpammer wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closing_credits

maximum of 8 minutes


Quiz:
Name three filmsthat have closing credit sequences of 10 minutes or longer...

There appears to be loads. Just a quick google comes up with

Superman
Clerks 2
Kill bill
Load of the rings (the extended addition)
Alien versus predator

I'm sure there is more