stupid stupid fare dodger

hethmar

Even if its spent, there will still be incidences where he would have to reveal ANY convictions - eg, if applying for an ESTA and for certain employers.

hethmar

terrafirma, have a google, for instance, this one came up immediately

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/9846448.Train_fare_dodger_fined/

http://www.grayhooperholt.co.uk/railway-fare-evasion.html

redux

If it's the same trip every day, this person could save something by buying a season ticket for the whole route.

Buying a season for a month plus 2 or 3 days most of the time, starting on a Monday and finishing on a Friday, and also arranging to leave gaps for holidays, can be about as cheap as an annual ticket.

Sharon87

I remember watching the programme 'The Tube' and they monitored repeat fare dodgers on the tube and one day when they were sure he was a fare dodger, they confronted him at the station and showed all the evidence of his constant fare dodging. So if someone is constantly fare dodging they may be monitored and seem to get away with it for a while, until the transport police (or whoever) stop them and say 'you've been doing this for a while' and that's when it can get serious.

londonTiger

even if it's just a record for 6 years, these 6 years could impair his career for life.

e.g. he would not be able to get into any professional role, he;ll either be able to start his own business, freelance for a living or get into a manual job.

After doing whatever he can do in those 6 years he'll get stuck in that profession.

lets not forget he probably will never be able to get into legal, accounting or other professional financial role for life.

antonic

Refer him to here :

http://www.railforums.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=152

and let him read of the tales of woe of people who get caught after only doing it ONCE !

(PS its Geordie_Taxi`s favourite site !).

goonarmy

Ill swim up stream and say crack on. Hes obviously employed-his commuting daily. He knows the risks and asses them accordingly. My local station was the same until recently. The record wouldnt bother me either.

macman

terra_ferma wrote: »

Thank you all for the info, in particular I didn't know that he could get a criminal record, I don't think he realises that.
I'm going to get all the info together and send him a nice info pack that hopefully he will make him see sense.
He's looked at several options, but will tell him about buying separate tickets in case he hasn't tried that.

If anyone know of a case of someone caught surfing/jumping the barrier it would be very useful (hard to argue you intended to pay for the ticket, I expect they would face the strongest penalties).

Since it's plastered all over all the fare-dodging deterrent advertising that has been around for years, he'd have to either be illiterate or completely stupid not to know that a criminal record can result. Pleading that it was a one-off won't work either, as they would simply review the CCTV (which is on every gate these days) and realise that he's a regular fare dodger.
He isn't suffering from lack of an info pack, he's simply in denial.
I don't know where in the country he travels, but in London and the South East there are hundreds of prosecutions each week.

geordie_taxi

antonic wrote: »

(PS its Geordie_Taxi`s favourite site !).

to be honest local d0gging websites r my favourite im not interested in watching foamers get all excited about class 65 locos

anyway to help the OP heres some videos that can assist ur family member. obviously the RPIs were to busy drinking tea to do their jobs

crafty way number one

crafty way number two

terra_ferma

macman wrote: »

Since it's plastered all over all the fare-dodging deterrent advertising that has been around for years, he'd have to either be illiterate or completely stupid not to know that a criminal record can result. Pleading that it was a one-off won't work either, as they would simply review the CCTV (which is on every gate these days) and realise that he's a regular fare dodger.
He isn't suffering from lack of an info pack, he's simply in denial.
I don't know where in the country he travels, but in London and the South East there are hundreds of prosecutions each week.

You can always count on advice from people who know what they are talking about , like those who can read my friend's mind and tell me what he knows and doesn't know, as give a sound diagnosis of his psychological state.

As far as the argument that staff are going to spend hours looking at CCTV just to find out if my friend has been dodging fares regularly, this would probably help my case, maybe you can point me to a similar case where this has actually happened (unless it's just a guess and they 'may' rather than 'would' review the CCTV)?