speeding ticket 2 months after the offence

maximus999

Thankyou all for your time and advise.

interstellaflyer

maximus999 wrote: »

I believe if someone stands in front of a judge they should either be found not guilty to speak or have the original 60 fine and 3 points at a maximum punishment, we should al be able to defend ourselves without fear.

It seems to me that innocent until proven guilty is a term which has gone out of the window a long time ago.

Then you would also pay court costs on top of the £60 and that could be £200 + £15 victims surcharge. You would need an awfully strong case to persuade a Magistrate or Judge that you simply can't remember who was driving, trust me Magistrates and Judges always side with the Police, trust me I know, I was fitted up by 2 police officers for a section 5 public order offence, I was innocent, there were no witnesses etc yet the word of the police officers was enough to get me a criminal record, I even failed to win the appeal.

maximus999

interstellaflyer,
that's sad to hear your story. I also know they side the police/law every time. I am in court regular with my job to give evidence.
It would seem the judges are biast even though the police are human like the rest of us and can twist things or even to the extent of lying

Oli.s

This isn't really a case of the magistrates siding with the police though is it to be fair, you don't dispute the fact the vehicle was being driven over the speed limit, you just can't remember who was driving.

If the courts allowed people to simply go to court and say at least two of us drive the car and we can't remember who was driving so you should let us off then how many people caught speeding do you think would pretend they couldn't remember who was driving to get off. If we lived in a perfect world where honesty ruled supreme then maybe, but we don't.

maximus999

oli good point.

willow321

kingstreet wrote: »

The NIP has to be served on the Registered Keeper within fourteen days of the alleged offence. Second or subsequent NIPs can take as long as necessary, remembering that the offence must see an information laid before magistrates within six months of the alleged offence date.

The Registered Keeper and the "person keeping the vehicle" are not necessarily the same.

From the sound of it, the first NIP was served correctly and if in England, Wales or NI, a speed awareness course (SAC) should be offered in lieu of prosecution, provided the OP hasn't attended one in the last three years. There is a four month limit on being offered and attending a course, so the OP should not delay in sending back the completed, signed S172 driver details request (having taken a copy and obtained proof of posting, of course).

If in Scotland, there are no SACs, so a conditional offer of fixed penalty (£60/3 pts) should follow the return of the S172 form.

is the 6 month rule, date of offence to court date.... or date of offence to notification of court date

Aretnap

willow321 wrote: »

is the 6 month rule, date of offence to court date.... or date of offence to notification of court date

Neither - it's 6 months from date of offence to "laying the information" with the court - filing the charges to you and I. The summons in forming you of the court date can arrive later, and the actual court date can be later still - there's no specific deadline for either.

Wig

maximus999 wrote: »

Hi all,
I received a ticket from the police (NIP) 2 months after the company lease car which I drive was caught doing 35 in a 30.
The lease company received the NIP 8 days after the offence which lies within the 14 day notification period.

Can I contest why it has taken so long to send me this NIP and does anyone know the guide lines on time scales for lease cars.

I was the keeper at the time but myself and my partner use the car.

Many thanks

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