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can a uk website use 'applicable law' from another country?

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  • matty_hunt
    matty_hunt Posts: 366 Forumite
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    edited 31 January 2013 at 11:15PM
    illegal according to another post on this website which quote a reply from the Office of Fair Trading.
    "From the OFT guidelines for Distance Selling (for sellers)
    Can I charge the consumer the cost of insuring items that
    I send out?
    3.20 No. These items belong to you until they have been accepted by your consumer. So you cannot charge your consumers for carrying risks
    that you should bear. See paragraph 3.36 for more information"

    I perhaps should not have made the comment about it being illegal as I only have the above comment made in another post to go on. Apologies.
  • Techhead_2
    Techhead_2 Posts: 1,769 Forumite
    dacouch wrote: »

    They are a multi-national company; it's no surprise they have a presence in different countries. There are plenty of other medium sized companies based in one country with websites based in another and offices or mail forwarding in other countries.

    Far better to base a decision on whether to do business with them on their reputation. See the threads in this forum for example.
  • pmduk
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    Really...you think that? If I buy something by money transfer for instance from China how can I enforce UK laws when something goes wrong?

    Basically, you can't. It's one of many reasons you shouldn't pay for goods by bank transfer, wherever the co is based.
  • dacouch
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    Techhead wrote: »
    They are a multi-national company; it's no surprise they have a presence in different countries. There are plenty of other medium sized companies based in one country with websites based in another and offices or mail forwarding in other countries.

    Far better to base a decision on whether to do business with them on their reputation. See the threads in this forum for example.

    How do you propose taking action against a company should anything go wrong, who use mail forwarding addresses for all of their websites
  • System
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    matty_hunt wrote: »
    illegal according to another post on this website which quote a reply from the Office of Fair Trading.
    "From the OFT guidelines for Distance Selling (for sellers)
    Can I charge the consumer the cost of insuring items that
    I send out?
    3.20 No. These items belong to you until they have been accepted by your consumer. So you cannot charge your consumers for carrying risks
    that you should bear. See paragraph 3.36 for more information"

    I perhaps should not have made the comment about it being illegal as I only have the above comment made in another post to go on. Apologies.
    It would only possibly be illegal if the company are operating under UK law
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  • gregg1
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    Really...you think that? If I buy something by money transfer for instance from China how can I enforce UK laws when something goes wrong?

    Purely based on my recent experience when I bought something on Amazon and it came from Germany with a two pin plug. Apparently, if a company is selling to a UK market it is illegal to have a two pin plug (unless it's a shaver).

    But I only said I "thought" that was the case, I was not making a definite assumption in the OP's case.
  • System
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    gregg1 wrote: »
    Purely based on my recent experience when I bought something on Amazon and it came from Germany with a two pin plug. Apparently, if a company is selling to a UK market it is illegal to have a two pin plug (unless it's a shaver).

    But I only said I "thought" that was the case, I was not making a definite assumption in the OP's case.

    But I assume this was bought from amazon.co.uk. A uk based website not a German one. Besides in the eu is different than from somewhere in Canada. Different rules.
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  • gregg1
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    goater78 wrote: »
    But I assume this was bought from amazon.co.uk. A uk based website not a German one. Besides in the eu is different than from somewhere in Canada. Different rules.


    Amazon marketplace.

    Apparently, it is illegal under the Plugs and Sockets Safety Regs if a company is based abroad but selling to a UK market. It did not particularly bother me, I just got a converter plug but I was not aware it was illegal.

    As I said I only "thought" it may apply to the OP and it would appear it does not.
  • System
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    gregg1 wrote: »
    Amazon marketplace.

    Apparently, it is illegal under the Plugs and Sockets Safety Regs if a company is based abroad but selling to a UK market. It did not particularly bother me, I just got a converter plug but I was not aware it was illegal.

    As I said I only "thought" it may apply to the OP and it would appear it does not.

    I can't see this being true. If you go on an American website and order a tv to be delivered to the uk I can't see how the uk can enforce what plug is on that tv?
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  • gregg1
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    goater78 wrote: »
    I can't see this being true. If you go on an American website and order a tv to be delivered to the uk I can't see how the uk can enforce what plug is on that tv?



    I have no idea how it can be enforced. Which magazine is trying to put pressure on Amazon to stop their sellers breaching the regulations by selling electrical goods with two pin plugs. Whether they will succeed is another matter entirely.
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