Work asking for very personal medical information.

Wellery82

Gilbert2 wrote: »

Unless the employer has the authority to do so, then they cannot demand their employees surrender their passport for inspection, even less to make a copy of it.

However, they can ask. And you can say no.

I would be careful about refusing this. Someone with legal background would be better qualified, but certainly i view the requirement to take a copy of Right to Work as a propotionate response to a business need - every organisation has to be able to prove the right to work of the employees they have working for them, and thus if you refuse to demonstrate this it compromises their position.

I would suggest that an unpaid suspension, and ultimate dismissal may be a likely sanction should an employee refuse to follow this procedure, and have seen this put into practise on a number of occasions in previous employment.

Gilbert2

Jimavfc82 wrote: »

How would you know they were UK born though... you would have to check!

No, they (the employer) would have to check.

Not your problem, it's the employer's problem.

There is no legislation that compels a UK born and bred subject to prove they are allowed to work.

Pete111

Gilbert2 wrote: »

No, they (the employer) would have to check.

Not your problem, it's the employer's problem.

There is no legislation that compels a UK born and bred subject to prove they are allowed to work.

Lord give me strength...

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/business-sponsors/preventing-illegal-working/

No respectable employer will allow you to begin work without proof of eligibility to do so.

That is reality.

Wellery82

Gilbert2 wrote: »

No, they (the employer) would have to check.

Not your problem, it's the employer's problem.

There is no legislation that compels a UK born and bred subject to prove they are allowed to work.

It is your problem though. An employer has a requirement to prove Right to Work as you identify. They are subject to sanctions including financial penalties and the revoking of a sponsorship license should they fail to adhere.

As such it can be requested easily as a reasonable management instruction to provide this, with appropriate disciplinary sanctions applied if not followed.

On a side note i would not understand why such resistance to an instruction a company is only issuing to comply with their own requirements

Pete111

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

Do tell - do you have any problems with your vagina that you would like to share?

Thought not...

Very Droll.

Did you miss the bit where I simply suggested she could fill it in (or not) to the degree she felt comfortable?

A far cry from your overly agressive recommendation...

I fire people as part of what I do. I know the types that tend to put themselves in a position where they are first up for the chop.

saintjammyswine

Check if someone can work in the UK

Start again

• 1Does the worker have a UK passport?
  
  No
  Change this answer
• 2Is the worker:
  
  a British citizen?
  Change this answer

The worker needs to show proof of their permission to work in the UK.


They need to show both:

• an official letter or document from a government agency (eg HM Revenue & Customs, Department for Work and Pensions, or the Social Security Agency in Northern Ireland) showing their National Insurance number
• full birth, adoption certificate or naturalisation certificate

Employers should take a copy of the relevant documents.

Sambucus_Nigra

Pete111 wrote: »

Very Droll.

Did you miss the bit where I simply suggested she could fill it in (or not) to the degree she felt comfortable?

A far cry from your overly agressive recommendation...

I fire people as part of what I do. I know the types that tend to put themselves in a position where they are first up for the chop.

You'll not have a vagina so you probably don't understand just how offensive that medical questionnaire is.

Pete111

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

You'll not have a vagina so you probably don't understand just how offensive that medical questionnaire is.

Then don't answer it.

I'm not sure how much more simplistic I can make this for you .

GlasweJen

As someone who does have a vagina I'd either answer "no" or leave it blank. I would kick up hell if there was no "do you have a problem with your penis" question.

starrybee

GlasweJen wrote: »

As someone who does have a vagina I'd either answer "no" or leave it blank. I would kick up hell if there was no "do you have a problem with your penis" question.

:rotfl:

This is very true, actually!