School uniform and benefits

plum2002

surely it's the children who do better, not the parents? Not that I totally agree, parental engagement is more important than adhering to exact uniform requirements in terms of how well a child does, however a major part of the reason for uniforms is about learning to follow rules, to 'conform within society', nothing wrong with questioning but learning that sometimes you have to go along with things you don't like in order to achieve what you do want.

Zziggi

satarical wrote: »

I would agree that they are mainly for the senior school. However the local primary school here does insist on blazer, jumper and PE tops to be bought from the specialised supplier due to having the school logo embodied on them.

Besides that, they insist on the types of shoes.

Shoes I think they could get away with by arguing health & safety. As for uniform in a state primary school- absolutely and totally unenforceable and state schools CANNOT punish a child for not having the uniform the school wants. Fact.

dori2o

plum2002 wrote: »

surely it's the children who do better, not the parents? Not that I totally agree, parental engagement is more important than adhering to exact uniform requirements in terms of how well a child does, however a major part of the reason for uniforms is about learning to follow rules, to 'conform within society', nothing wrong with questioning but learning that sometimes you have to go along with things you don't like in order to achieve what you do want.

Childen also have to learn the value of a £, and learn that at times you have to buy what your wallet allows, rather than what you want.

I would much rather teach my daughter how to make money go further by buying cheaper alternative, but just a suitable items, than how to buy the most expensive item on the high street.

Maybe then she won't make the same money mistakes I did when I first started working, mistakes that took me a number of ears to rectify, and learn from.

There are many lessons to teach children, and sometime you have to do it by not conforming.

Zziggi

plum2002 wrote: »

Really? Middle daughter was sent home for wearing a navy cardigan rather than royal blue (there were none in her size and we had 3 on order) she was not permitted to return until the correct cardigan could be worn. State primary school.

The school is simply not allowed to do this. A phone call to the LEA will have sorted this.

plum2002

dori2o wrote: »

Childen also have to learn the value of a £, and learn that at times you have to buy what your wallet allows, rather than what you want.

I would much rather teach my daughter how to make money go further by buying cheaper alternative, but just a suitable items, than how to buy the most expensive item on the high street.

Maybe then she won't make the same money mistakes I did when I first started working, mistakes that took me a number of ears to rectify, and learn from.

There are many lessons to teach children, and sometime you have to do it by not conforming.

I do agree, but sometimes you have to pick your battles

plum2002

Zziggi wrote: »

The school is simply not allowed to do this. A phone call to the LEA will have sorted this.

The LEA said that if there is a uniform policy in place you are required to follow it.

Zziggi

plum2002 wrote: »

The LEA said that if there is a uniform policy in place you are required to follow it.

I'm assuming we are talking about a primary school?
Then you have been misled. Legally it is not enforceable. In primary schools the uniform policy is no more than a polite request for your compliance. They cannot be enforced whatever the school writes in their prospectus. I suggest an Internet search to find the correct legislation.

satarical

dori2o wrote: »

My daughter will do well at school no matter what she wears, because we push her to do well. We sit with her whilst she does her homework, we work with her whilst she uses the internet to research. We support any choice she makes to join school clubs, we support the concerts/plays etc she is involved in.

The fact she won't be wearing the required uniform won't make any difference to how well she does. That will be because of our input.

Maybe, but have you actually asked her what she would like to wear? Making children be different from their peers is not a good idea. They have to know that they 'fit in'.

I would have been devasted if any of my daughters' actually went to school in clothes from the likes of Asda or Primark.

Ellejmorgan

I got my daughters blazer from ASDA george and it cost £12, my daughter is a size 12 and I noticed that the blazers went up by another two or three sizes above that, I was able to purchase a badge for £3 and iron it on...
The PE..kit was pricey there wasn't any way round it, as it's so specific rugby shirt, shorts , polo & socks came to about £40, she only got one of everything though..
Shirts and skirt were from ASDA and go up to age 16, the skirt looks huge though approx size 16..Shoes were from car boot sale for 50p that were bought a few years ago and put aside..

I haven't heard of a grant for uniforms recently, the first and only time I have received one was for £22 and that was when my eldest started school aged 4, she's now 14...

Schools expect it to be done and they will punish the kids if they are not properly dressed..
One thing that might help is have you thought of applying for a DWP budgeting loan, you have until March to apply because they are being cut but it would enable you to get what you need and can be paid back gradually....

dori2o

satarical wrote: »

Maybe, but have you actually asked her what she would like to wear? Making children be different from their peers is not a good idea. They have to know that they 'fit in'.

I would have been devasted if any of my daughters' actually went to school in clothes from the likes of Asda or Primark.

Well, we're not all snobs like you.

Just as an aside, are you aware which company makes ASDA George clothes.