School uniform and benefits

paddedjohn

My sons blazer can only be bought from 1 shop because the badge is embroidered into the pocket, if i took a plain blazer into them to have the badge done they want £40, his old blazer was ok but for some reason the colour of the badge changes each year depending on the house you belong to and the previous years colour is shelved for a couple of years which stops you handing the blazer down to someone else. Its all just a big money making scam.

I forgot to get him a hoody for P.E. (which also needed badging) and he was given detention for not having it with him even though it was raining and they were indoors and no-one wore one anyway.

plum2002

notanewuser wrote: »

Uniform
Isn't compulsory for primary school children anyway.

Really? Middle daughter was sent home for wearing a navy cardigan rather than royal blue (there were none in her size and we had 3 on order) she was not permitted to return until the correct cardigan could be worn. State primary school.

sarahg1969

plum2002 wrote: »

Really? Middle daughter was sent home for wearing a navy cardigan rather than royal blue (there were none in her size and we had 3 on order) she was not permitted to return until the correct cardigan could be worn. State primary school.

Really! It's no surprise that they keep it a secret though, is it? Shocking that your daughter was suspended for having the 'wrong' colour of cardigan!

satarical

LunaLady wrote: »

Most of these are for secondary schools - if I were you I would start saving now

I would agree that they are mainly for the senior school. However the local primary school here does insist on blazer, jumper and PE tops to be bought from the specialised supplier due to having the school logo embodied on them.

Besides that, they insist on the types of shoes allowed.

The local grammer school go to town. Straw hats for the summer, a different one for the winter, kilts for the two youngest years, long black coats (wool) the list is endless

I do admit that seeing the children going to school is a lovely sight especially the little ones in their uniform.

dori2o

sarahg1969 wrote: »

Really! It's no surprise that they keep it a secret though, is it? Shocking that your daughter was suspended for having the 'wrong' colour of cardigan!

Like I said earlier, at my eldest daughters school where she started in September, 40 kids were sent home on the 2nd day of the new school year because their skirts/trousers, despite being almost identical to the 'official ones' didn't have the schools logo (approx 1" square) on the waist band.

The fact the majority of these logo's are covered up at all times with belts means nothing. If they are not the approved trousers/skirts, they are no good and off home they all went.

We're going to buy from tesco next year and screw what the school says. If they refuse to teach our daughter they'll find themselves in the press.

If she was refusing to learn, being naughty, skipping school, a bully, or doing anything else that is completely unacceptable, then I could fully understand it. But not having a 1" square logo on a waistband of a skirt or a pair of trousers is absolutely no reason what so ever to send a child home from a State school.

Private and Grammar I can sort of understand, you make a choice to go there, kids don't make the choice to go to a state school, they go where they are allocated, and therefore these restrictions should be outlawed.

Dunroamin

dori2o wrote: »

Private and Grammar I can sort of understand, you make a choice to go there, kids don't make the choice to go to a state school, they go where they are allocated, and therefore these restrictions should be outlawed.

Grammar schools are state schools and most people choose which comprehensive they send their children to. If you don't approve of their uniform policy, you should have sent her somewhere else.

dori2o

Dunroamin wrote: »

Grammar schools are state schools and most people choose which comprehensive they send their children to. If you don't approve of their uniform policy, you should have sent her somewhere else.

You say it as though we had a choice. We didn't.

Grammar schools may be funded by the state, but you can't simply ask to be sent there, you have to take a test to get in. Those who choose for their children to attempt to gain acceptance to the school obviously know prior to this that they have to abide by certain rules etc.

We didn't choose to send our daughter to a Grammar school, a) because it's too far away, and b) because the school she is at (which she was always going to be allocated due to the catchment area) is a relatively good school that both me and her mother went to.

If someone can provide an actual reason, backed by evidence, as to why buyig uniform form 1 place with 1 high cost improves the ability of a school to teach and a pupil to learn I'm willing to listen.

I can guarantee nobody can provide such evidence.

mumps

bestpud wrote: »

That is true to a point.

However, the quality of average state school uniform is definitely not what it used to be!

I've often thought those who have to buy specialist uniforms (grammars or independents mostly) and pay a lot for it are probably getting far better value for money these days. Maybe they always have.

My impression is they are better made and from better quality materials.

The bog standard uniforms are very poor quality but not cheap and therefore proportionally more expensive in my opinion.

That said, I think of the cost spread over the year and something that just needs to be bought so have never had a problem with it. I would refuse to pay the price for that quality of out of school wear though.

Mine went to grammar school and the uniform was expensive rubbish. As an example by daughter is 23 now and she still wears some blouses and jumpersI bought her when she was 14 (I can definitely date some as I bought them on a holiday to France.) Her school jumpers and skirts never lasted more than a year. The jumpers, or I suppose I should say sweatshirts, were the worst and faded really badly, they all started off in September in navy blue and by the summer they were in a horrible faded blue. My grandchildren have Asda sweatshirts that wash far better.

Dunroamin

dori2o wrote: »

You say it as though we had a choice. We didn't.

Grammar schools may be funded by the state, but you can't simply ask to be sent there, you have to take a test to get in. Those who choose for their children to attempt to gain acceptance to the school obviously know prior to this that they have to abide by certain rules etc.

We didn't choose to send our daughter to a Grammar school, a) because it's too far away, and b) because the school she is at (which she was always going to be allocated due to the catchment area) is a relatively good school that both me and her mother went to.

If someone can provide an actual reason, backed by evidence, as to why buyig uniform form 1 place with 1 high cost improves the ability of a school to teach and a pupil to learn I'm willing to listen.

I can guarantee nobody can provide such evidence.

Nobody can prove that because it isn't true. However, what can be proved is that parents who support the school and its rules (you know, like you're not planning to do;)) do much better than those who don't.

(And many people choose not to send their children to their local school and choose a school that accords more with their attitudes and beliefs.)

dori2o

Dunroamin wrote: »

Nobody can prove that because it isn't true. However, what can be proved is that parents who support the school and its rules (you know, like you're not planning to do;)) do much better than those who don't.

(And many people choose not to send their children to their local school and choose a school that accords more with their attitudes and beliefs.)

My daughter will do well at school no matter what she wears, because we push her to do well. We sit with her whilst she does her homework, we work with her whilst she uses the internet to research. We support any choice she makes to join school clubs, we support the concerts/plays etc she is involved in.

The fact she won't be wearing the required uniform won't make any difference to how well she does. That will be because of our input.