New Job for one week, Back injury!

ohreally

Try this lot - http://www.accidentclaims.org/ Read the coment on the lower right bottom of the page - I take it someones on their last day at work.

SaveMeDo

Thanks for that link cabriolean, very interesting.

Every rule in that guidance is flouted by my employer on an hourly basis!

As far as I can tell, being on SSP is classed as being employed, so if I'm unfit for work until the end of the fourth week, I can leave and no sanction should apply.

Does anyone disagree with this reasoning?

If so, why?

RichardD1970

ohreally wrote: »

Try this lot - http://www.accidentclaims.org/ Read the coment on the lower right bottom of the page - I take it someones on their last day at work.

:rotfl::rotfl:

Ddunn

ohreally wrote: »

Try this lot - http://www.accidentclaims.org/ Read the coment on the lower right bottom of the page - I take it someones on their last day at work.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

bubblebath_2

Jesus wept, some of the people on this forum have been downright rude to the OP.
How can you say to him? 'Oh you know nothing about hard work' You don't know anything about his situation? He is 56 years old, you don't know anything about how hard his past working experience has been before going on the dole at age 52.

Oh look at the other poster at you all high and mighty 'I have got everything where I am to today through my hard work' - Yeah it seems like that taught you a lot mate about treating people less fortunate than you with common decency, think yourself lucky you have a fricking decent job!
Let me guess - when you twist your back you just carry on lifting! It's clear you've never had a proper back injury to know how agonising that is!

OP - if you have genuinely damaged your back, then you definitely need to see your doctor and find out if it is just muscle pain (in which just rest it and liase with your boss and then and go back to work) or something worse.

I really wouldn't quit the job though mate. Why would you want to put up with people like this in your daily life, keep telling you who you are and you are not!

You are lucky to be touched by an employer after 4 years off. He was right on that.

Good luck, keep at it!
Don't quit just because you think they are 'nutters' though. Surely you know that is everywhere!

Mara69

CCFC_80 wrote: »

Perhaps they shouldn't be so dependent on agency staff then?

I'm not sure where you get the idea the company is dependent on agency staff. They use agency staff when they have deliveries over and above the usual number. Surely that is the point of agency staff - to be used on an ad hoc basis?

CCFC_80 wrote: »

I found that as an agency worker who worked in a warehouse, I felt extremely de-motivated working for £4.00 per hour less then my permanent colleagues

*Shrugs* So don't work for them then. Personally, I found working through an agency useful, it was an excellent springboard to the job I have now. You also have to consider why you were agency and your colleagues permenent?

CCFC_80

Mara69 wrote: »

I'm not sure where you get the idea the company is dependent on agency staff. They use agency staff when they have deliveries over and above the usual number. Surely that is the point of agency staff - to be used on an ad hoc basis?

Not in my experience, Many companies now use agency staff for long term work. My nephew was a temp for 5 years at one company and never got taken on permanently.

You asked me a question and I answered it. The temp staff are leaving because they are probably de-motivated by earning an hourly rate of pay inferior to their permanent colleagues as well as not getting their benefits.Also they are made to work harder.


*Shrugs* So don't work for them then. Personally, I found working through an agency useful, it was an excellent springboard to the job I have now. You also have to consider why you were agency and your colleagues permenent?

My nephew was agency staff because the company could no-longer be arsed to take on employers permanenly. Instead preferred to recruit through the Employment Agency Leeches

Mara69

That was your experience and that of your nephew. does not mean that all agencies or employers are the same. My husband's firm do not use agency staff long term, nor are they 'made' to work harder. They usually leave very quickly when they realise that the job is hard graft - for everyone - bit like the OP.

dickydonkin

cabriolean wrote: »

http://www.workplacesafetyadvice.co.uk/guide-manual-handling-lifting-techniques.html
The suggested limits are stupidly low, 16 kg, is the maximum a woman's supposed to carry, the average teenager is perfectly capable of lifting and piggybacking more, but it has some decent advice. Also, did you purchase a back brace and stretch beforehand, because a back brace really does help.

It is important to realise that the weights quoted are just guidance and to be honest, causes more confusion that help IMO.

For a start, the maximum weights quoted in the regs are when the load is being carried at optimum height - which is tight into the body around midriff height - the guidance weight is significantly reduced when the load is on the floor or carried/lifted away from the body.

Furthermore, to add confusion, you could have an older small male who is slightly built working with a young female weight lifter - that wouold make a mockery of the guidance loads.

We are all different and that is why it is important for the employer to consider the physical capability of a worker before giving him/her a task - and this is all down to risk assessment.

Unfortunately, many employers fail to undertake manual handling assessments and just assume that everyone is physically capable of doing any given task - the situation regarding the OP clearly contradicts that assertion.

CCFC_80

Mara69 wrote: »

That was your experience and that of your nephew. does not mean that all agencies or employers are the same. My husband's firm do not use agency staff long term, nor are they 'made' to work harder. They usually leave very quickly when they realise that the job is hard graft - for everyone - bit like the OP.

Again I would take issue with you. From experience temp workers who do stick it out generally work much harder. They need to impress the bosses so they can ensure they are invited back next day/week. One mistake on the production line and it's a phonecall to the agency to get someone else in for tomorrow.

Temp workers tend to be also c*****d on by their permanent colleagues who obviously have their foot in the door and know the ropes. Generally they are given the worst jobs and forced to take their breaks at the worst times.

Many of them would find it hard, but on the whole they would be to reiterate again completely demotivated by getting inferior pay and benefits of their permanent colleagues