What percentage of England is "overcrowded"?

StevieJ

chewmylegoff wrote: »

Anyone wondering what life would be like if infrastructure lags behind population should spend a Saturday morning in Grenoble airport during ski season.

Or Silverstone when the Grand Prix was on pre 2003

grizzly1911

Malcnascar wrote: »

As an example reduce the government grant in say Hertfordshire and increase it in say South Yorkshire.

Isn't the revers happening. Rumors suggest that they would like to pare back the northern funds to prop up the south.

Conrad

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Because I know full well that the vast majority of space in Hertfordshire is not built on, as is the case in most of the UK.

I often drive through Herts, the roads are choc-a-block. Lets make them even more congested, hoorah!

In my area in the S/E it's hard to get a hospital parking space, or see a consultant as services are stretched to the limit.
Lets make the system in the /SE groan even more, hoorah.

Your argument is akin to stating as the main Human artery only takes up a little space in the body, it matters not if it's congested.

Out,_Vile_Jelly

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

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Perhaps those clamouring that England is "full up" can identify what percentage of England they think is in fact "full"?

Well, I don't have any facts to hand, but I would say the bits of England that are "full" are those where there are issues with:

Enough school places
Enough nursery places
GP/dentist same day appointments
Hospital waiting lists
Traffic gridlock on commuter routes
Overcrowding on commuter trains
Air pollution
Repeat flooding exacerbated by over-concreting
Lack of rental properties
Lack of parking in city centres or on terraced streets
Lack of green space, fresh air and biodiversity

Of course, I'm sure if it were explained to people experiencing these problems that they were just imagining it, because there are some empty fields just out of town, then they would be very grateful to the OP.

JimmyTheWig

zagubov wrote: »

Look the 2% figure's meaningless. the urban area is 10%. The non-concreted land is useless. unless we do what Taiwan did and send farmers to grow food in people's gardens.

I totally agree with this.
If you look at the "empty space" between the molecules in concrete then you could probably get that 2% figure down to something crazily small. But it wouldn't be relevant.
So we're 10% urban. So we could double to population and still "only" be 20% full. I.e. doubling the population would reduce our non-urban areas by 11%. Doesn't sound that bad.

I'll get pilloried for saying this but the UK needs loads more Milton Keynes. Spacious well-laid out cities with infrastructure planned and already set up.

I sort of agree. On the proviso that they started their own football club and didn't steal anyone elses.
And that the place they build is, I don't know, better!!

I wonder if there is anywhere in the country that we could fit another Greater London?

michaels

I think you could build a town between London colney and Hatfield, upgrade the A404, former M10 etc to motorway and add a train station on the Hatfield line close to South Mimms (upgrade the line and signals if need be). Make it a proper town with suburbs, a centre, a hospital, mixed housing etc. Probably about 100k people.

The 'magic' round about at Hemel really is very straight-forward an salso demonstrates an interesting psychological effect, the majority of drivers try and negotiate the outer big circle in a clockwise dircetion no doubt because they imagine that it ias a roundabout even though it is conceptually a very small ring road and thus you can make more rapid progress around it proceeeding in an anticlockwise direction.

tesuhoha

Looking at Google images of Aberdeen there seems to be rather a lot of green open countryside outside the city.

A massive shanty town could be built there to house Romanian and Bulgarian immigrants. After all according to Hamish there is plenty of work there and a demand for immigrants.

kabayiri

I have the solution.
The average houseboat is less than 70 foot long. The UK coastline is over 7000 miles. That's over 600,000 houseboats if stacked just one deep - that's just a start.

Need to relocate for work? No problem, just up anchor and sale into a pre-negotiated vacant slot.