Should People With Low IQ's Be Allowed To Vote?

lostinrates

Nope, nope, nope. cannot see why you suggested we come out if hiding for this sort of thing hamish. Sorry.

elsien

PaulF81 wrote: »

, Labour, who are voted in by degenerates, the lazy and criminals, .

Ooh, wonder which one that makes me? Currently at work doing a 24 hour shift so not lazy, squeaky clean CRB so that only leaves the degenerate bit. It does sound like fun though. What do I have to do to qualify as a proper degenerate? I'm quite broad minded and open to suggestions.

And previous posters seem to have overlooked the cultural biases inherent in IQ tests, so anyone wanting to chuck a bit of casual racism into the discussion, now's your chance.

mystic_trev

I've met many people with high IQ's who've got no common sense whatsoever. I wouldn't trust many of these with a lighted match,yet alone a vote!

Linda_D_2

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Democracy is the least bad system we've tried so far, but it's far from perfect.

As 50% of the population have an IQ of 100 or less, and such people are essentially incapable of comprehending some of the more complex issues facing society, particularly issues where the evidence supports a counter-intuitive conclusion, wouldn't it be better if passing an IQ test above a certain threshold was a prerequisite for voting?

Or is it the case that we should continue to rely on Politicians being able to dumb down debate so that a majority of voters can understand, even though this leads to the nuances and subtleties of important issues being lost, and encourages partisan conflict and 'rabble rousing' styles of communication?

Well from judging your IQ based on the amount of idiotic posts you make, this would mean that you that you would never get a vote with an IQ that rivals your shoesize.

Congratulations on reaching a new low, even by your standards, with this pathetic thread.

Jennifer_Jane

IQ tests are easily manipulated by practice. They are a nonsense. Many years ago I did a few tests, starting off with an OK IQ test of 125 or so and finishing up at 160. It was simply practice.

Also, would Hamish have IQ tests held on a national level before every election/by-election, MEP and councillor vote? How costly. We already have low voter turnout and now there would have to be humiliating IQ tests done before an election?

Agree with the previous posts on Democracy. It's not a good system, but it's the best possible, and it should not be up to the Government to decide who is allowed to vote.

Grief - people have died for universal suffrage, it's a precious thing.

Going4TheDream

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Democracy is the least bad system we've tried so far, but it's far from perfect.

As 50% of the population have an IQ of 100 or less, and such people are essentially incapable of comprehending some of the more complex issues facing society, particularly issues where the evidence supports a counter-intuitive conclusion, wouldn't it be better if passing an IQ test above a certain threshold was a prerequisite for voting?

Or is it the case that we should continue to rely on Politicians being able to dumb down debate so that a majority of voters can understand, even though this leads to the nuances and subtleties of important issues being lost, and encourages partisan conflict and 'rabble rousing' styles of communication?

After reading your posts on another thread which branded people who have 'concerns' over unmeasured migration as 'racist' because they disagreed with your views on the subject, with you suggesting it is 'it is their right to come here' I find it laughable that you are proposing we actually 'discriminate' against people now who are perhaps considered the less intelligent in society and strip them of their 'right' to vote.

Hypocritical much?

System

I've made my opinions on politics clear loads of times on here, but I find it utterly staggering that people are allowed to vote when they have absolutely no idea what they are voting for or what their vote even means. People like DecentLivingWage who choose to simply "support a team" regardless of what they propose or do shouldn't be allowed within 10 miles of a poll card.

I had a row with a mate a many years ago who announced he'd voted UKIP because he reckoned he'd heard that they were going to make house prices the same all over the world, which would be handy for when he wants to move around... Why is this person allowed a say?

I find it all mental. IQ probably isn't the answer but some kind of politics aptitude test to earn the right to vote makes sense, to me at least.

Generali

PaulF81 wrote: »

Its less than 100 years ago that oxbridge and durham graduates (plus dons) had 2 votes. Cant see too many problems in this, nor the requirement to "earn" your vote, either through work, or lack of criminal conviction, or military service. Or being a graduate without a criminal record.

Either way, Labour, who are voted in by degenerates, the lazy and criminals, would be screwed politically.

I had 2 votes legally in the UK despite only being 42 years old so long after most of the old laws had gone.

A bonus point to anyone that can guess why. A clue is that it's to do with where I lived and worked being different places although both were in England.

Moby

elsien wrote: »

Ooh, wonder which one that makes me? Currently at work doing a 24 hour shift so not lazy, squeaky clean CRB so that only leaves the degenerate bit. It does sound like fun though. What do I have to do to qualify as a proper degenerate? I'm quite broad minded and open to suggestions.

And previous posters seem to have overlooked the cultural biases inherent in IQ tests, so anyone wanting to chuck a bit of casual racism into the discussion, now's your chance.

Nice post ...respect:)

grizzly1911

PaulF81 wrote: »

Its less than 100 years ago that oxbridge and durham graduates (plus dons) had 2 votes. Cant see too many problems in this, nor the requirement to "earn" your vote, either through work, or lack of criminal conviction, or military service. Or being a graduate without a criminal record.

Either way, Labour, who are voted in by degenerates, the lazy and criminals, would be screwed politically.

About a 100 years ago we still had TB and Typhoid should we bring those back as well?

That Cambridge University Professor on QT last week displayed how out of touch some of them are.