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Should People With Low IQ's Be Allowed To Vote?

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  • StevieJ wrote: »
    You mean people like these?
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    They would have voted Labour -- so are you bovvered ?
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
  • michaels wrote: »
    Hamish you are a naughty boy ;)

    Congratulations.

    You passed.;)
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    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • StevieJ
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    They would have voted Labour -- so are you bovvered ?

    Maybe, maybe not, but I am not sure what relevance that has.
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  • N1AK
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    edited 25 January 2013 at 12:49PM
    There is a ever shrinking minority who are even remotely well informed on the majority of issues faced in the modern world. A world class doctor may very well have great intellect but may also have no understanding of many subjects, poor knowledge and little inclination to consider such matters. Finding a viable method to slice the population would likely be impossible.

    However that pales in significance to the real issue. Democracy is about giving people representation and the ability to affect the laws that govern them. If most of the population couldn't vote it would lead to further erosion of trust in the institutions and laws of the land and the disfranchised's eventual subjugation or revolution.
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  • GeorgeHowell
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    N1AK wrote: »
    There is a ever shrinking minority who are even remotely well informed on the majority of issues faced in the modern world. A world class doctor may very well have great intellect but may also have no understanding of many subjects, poor knowledge and little inclination to consider such matters. Finding a viable method to slice the population would likely be impossible.

    However that pales in significance to the real issue. Democracy is about giving people representation and the ability to affect the laws that govern them. If most of the population couldn't vote it would lead to further erosion of trust in the institutions and laws of the law and the disfranchised's eventual subjugation or revolution.

    Spot on. There's only one thing worse than giving the vote to thick, ignorant, impenetrable, prejudiced morons -- and that's not giving them the vote.
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
  • N1AK
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    Hooloovoo wrote: »
    Each candidate should have to supply one side of an A4 page detailing the key points of their manifesto. Each voter reads these forms, which should take no more than an hour.

    Before being allowed to vote you are required to answer a few simple, basic, questions on each candidate. Questions that are not difficult and can be answered by anyone that has bothered to read the election documentation.

    It's a more workable solution than IQ testing but still not something I'm in favour of. Personally I would like to see them only put candidate names on voting forms and ban any party information within the grounds of the polling station and surrounding area. If someone doesn't even know who they are voting for and simply selects on party affiliation then I would very much like to make it a little harder for them.
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  • GeorgeHowell
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    N1AK wrote: »
    It's a more workable solution than IQ testing but still not something I'm in favour of. Personally I would like to see them only put candidate names on voting forms and ban any party information within the grounds of the polling station and surrounding area. If someone doesn't even know who they are voting for and simply selects on party affiliation then I would very much like to make it a little harder for them.

    It used to be like that, but the political parties got it changed.
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
  • Should People With Low IQ's Be Allowed To Vote?

    If we were discussing this in a room, we'd all now be sheepishly looking sideways at Graham_Devon to see if he realises.
  • CLAPTON
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    edited 24 January 2013 at 1:52PM
    Hooloovoo wrote: »
    This is absolutely my own view as well.


    It reminds me of an interview I saw during the AV referendum, where a "man on the street" said he was going to vote no to AV because he didn't want to support Nick Clegg after the issue with tuition fees! Clearly people like this should be be allowed to vote. The simple fact that AV did not go through is example enough that something needs to be done about the system.



    Absolutely a rational decision was made by that 'man in the street'. I fully approve of his ability to see the essence of the situation whilst you totally miss the main point.
    Your view shows you lack conceptual or analytical thinking or indeed any ability to think atall.

    I've skipped over the "are IQ tests valid" argument because I think it is missing the point.

    Yes, absolutely, people should be required to pass a small, simple, test before being given a voting form.

    Each candidate should have to supply one side of an A4 page detailing the key points of their manifesto. Each voter reads these forms, which should take no more than an hour.

    Before being allowed to vote you are required to answer a few simple, basic, questions on each candidate. Questions that are not difficult and can be answered by anyone that has bothered to read the election documentation.


    what a brainless idea

    basically you are saying that we should read a page of self serving lies and then be tested on the lies?
  • Percy1983
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    I will agree some people are too stupid to vote.

    I remember in my earlier years when an election was coming up, me and my boss where discussing who was voting for and came up with good reasons why we had made different choice.

    We then invited another girl in the office into the conversation to see if there was any other ways of looking at it, to which we found seee was voting for a party and her reason was 'because she always has', to which when question why, 'because her parents always had'!

    Maybe a short quiz on the voting slips on a few basic policies of parties could get rid of these.
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