Stopping Distances

aileth

pulliptears wrote: »

My other bugbear is the hill onto the estate. It always has cars parked either side so you need to give way. I was always taught you give way to traffic coming up the hill. With the ice you need the momentum at present, hardly surprising then on getting halfway up someone will always force their way down, making you pull in and losing the momentum then struggle to get going again. Common sense is to wait at the top and let the car coming up complete their manoeuvre. It's not that difficult surely?

This. On Tuesday our hill was totally iced over, OH saw the scene, someone making progress up the hill (Sure maybe only 2-3 mph but she was constantly moving) and person coming down the hill, despite there being a flat 'platform' on which to wait (cars park one side on the slope so its 1 way). Person coming down the hill came straight down smacked into the person coming up's bonnet, didn't even wait at the platform, obviously came careering down, tried to brake when realised she couldn't 'allow' them passage and skidded into her!

This happens even when the hill isn't icy. The amount of times we've been coming up and been in a 'stand-off' with some spanner who refuses to give way and we have had to reverse to allow their royal highnesses to pass!!

bod1467

Bowling_4_Gold wrote: »

I drive a stretch of road that is NSL, and every day without fail I will only be able to get up to 40/45 on it. For some reason there is always some one at the front of the 3/4 cars ahead insistent on doing 40!

That'll be one of those people I call "mono-speed morons" ... they drive at 40mph regardless of what the speed limit of that road is. 70, 60, 50, 40, 30, 20 ... they'll still be doing 40. :mad:

bitemebankers

Bowling_4_Gold wrote: »

I drive a stretch of road that is NSL, and every day without fail I will only be able to get up to 40/45 on it. For some reason there is always some one at the front of the 3/4 cars ahead insistent on doing 40!

Also known as the "aggressive slows", people who try to enforce their own speed limit on everyone else. !!!!!!s.

mr_sharma

bitemebankers wrote: »

Also known as the "aggressive slows", people who try to enforce their own speed limit on everyone else. !!!!!!s.

Conversely there's also "aggressive fasts", morons who want to drive above the speed limit and expect you to do so as well.

dacouch

bitemebankers wrote: »

Also known as the "aggressive slows", people who try to enforce their own speed limit on everyone else. !!!!!!s.

Or assuming it's a single track there's a lorry at the front

Azari

bitemebankers wrote: »

Also known as the "aggressive slows", people who try to enforce their own speed limit on everyone else. !!!!!!s.

That only applies when people are hogging an overtaking lane.

There is no reason why anyone should have to drive faster than they wish just because the person behind cannot overtake for the time being.

It's a limit, not a target.

bod1467

Azari wrote: »

It's a limit, not a target.

It's also an offence to drive too slowly.

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/road_traffic_offences_guidance_on_prosecuting_cases_of_bad_driving/

The following examples are typical of what we are likely to regard as inconsiderate driving:

flashing of lights to force other drivers in front to give way;
misuse of any lane to avoid queuing or gain some other advantage over other drivers;
unnecessarily remaining in an overtaking lane;
unnecessarily slow driving or braking without good cause;
driving with un-dipped headlights which dazzle oncoming drivers;
driving through a puddle causing pedestrians to be splashed; and
driving a bus in such a way as to alarm passengers..

dacouch

bod1467 wrote: »

It's also an offence to drive too slowly.

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/road_traffic_offences_guidance_on_prosecuting_cases_of_bad_driving/

40mph is not unnecessarily slowly, it's the maximum speed the law requires HGV's to drive at on single track NSLs

Azari

bod1467 wrote: »

It's also an offence to drive too slowly.

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/road_traffic_offences_guidance_on_prosecuting_cases_of_bad_driving/

Yes, but 40-50 in an NSL area is in no way too slow.

If you try that argument when the police stop you for trying to bully a driver in front you will not get very far.

broonbear

my father gave me advice on passing my driving test many moons ago....treat all drivers as idiots .... that way you're prepared for the worst