probation termination advice

McKneff

You really need to go and pay for the advice you seek.

Its very silly asking for advice and not giving precise details, any advice is meaningless in that case.

You'll probably get exactly the same as you have got on here free.

dacouch

Jonnymac you need to speak to sho_me_da_money who is a member of MSE and specialises in employment. He'll be able to help you out.

johnnymac93

Thanks dacouch. Might well do.
I'm in good company at the mo with 2 lawyers and 2 trainee lawyers advising as well on how to approach this.

McKneff

johnnymac93 wrote: »

Thanks dacouch. Might well do.
I'm in good company at the mo with 2 lawyers and 2 trainee lawyers advising as well on how to approach this.

Are you nuts???

Why on earth, if you have all this 'professional' , are you on here asking for advice.

You really are wasting peoples time, you wont waste any more of mine...............

'secret' indeed, you sound like a child, so much like a child these 'lawyers and trainee lawyers' will see you coming a mile off. So be it.

johnnymac93

Mckneff, I've been on the blower on and off all afternoon and all evening since posting on the forum. It's called networking, much like we use forums like mse. I shouldn't even be explaining myself to you but seeing as you're the latest 'child' to throw their toys out of the pram I feel I have to. Pity. Obviously my attempts to seek help outside of the forum have proved far more helpful than inside it. Seems like i've been wasting my time!

Sambucus_Nigra

johnnymac93 wrote: »

Hi all.

My job was terminated recently and i'm planning to appeal. I asked for a copy of the minutes of the meeting which was held in the presence of my line manager, Hr and myself. WOW, is all I could say. I've been sent a document which lists about 3 times as many failures as were mentioned in the meeting (one of which is an outright lie) and I aparrently agreed to everything or if not acknowledged it (if you believe the minutes).
What i'm wondering is if right from the off the company hasn't performed it's duty properly. For one thing I was given my invite to the meeting half a day before it began despite my LM having it two days prior. I was given it and told "Sorry I meant to give you this since Monday". I asked if I needed to bring anything or get anything ready and was told, "no it'll be fine, just bring yourself". Really?
Anyhow, fast forward to the meeting. As far as I understood it, it was going to be an end of probation meeting. When I got in there I was told it was a formal meeting. Okaaaay.
What then followed was a conversation about why I was being dismissed (performance) which was pretty jokey in itself and my being told I would pretty much best be leaving the premises immediately after the meeting had finished.
Now that the detail is out of the way I ask you am I not right in thinking that if the meeting was a dismissal meeting that I should have been given a clear indication of the nature of the meeting and in good time to prepare myself?
Secondly isn't there supposed to be a third, "independent" party taking minutes to stop the sort of thing happening that has happened here i.e me receiving minutes listing several faults aimed at me which were not mentioned in the meeting with neither party being able to prove what was actually said.
My one concern is that it's a probation period and that as such my grounds for appeal are limited.
My appeal will be based on one of these grounds but I don't have the space nor inclination to post it all up .

Thanks for listening.

For the record. :rotfl::rotfl:

pelirocco

johnnymac93 wrote: »

Hi all.

My job was terminated recently and i'm planning to appeal. I asked for a copy of the minutes of the meeting which was held in the presence of my line manager, Hr and myself. WOW, is all I could say. I've been sent a document which lists about 3 times as many failures as were mentioned in the meeting (one of which is an outright lie) and I aparrently agreed to everything or if not acknowledged it (if you believe the minutes).
What i'm wondering is if right from the off the company hasn't performed it's duty properly. For one thing I was given my invite to the meeting half a day before it began despite my LM having it two days prior. I was given it and told "Sorry I meant to give you this since Monday". I asked if I needed to bring anything or get anything ready and was told, "no it'll be fine, just bring yourself". Really?
Anyhow, fast forward to the meeting. As far as I understood it, it was going to be an end of probation meeting. When I got in there I was told it was a formal meeting. Okaaaay.
What then followed was a conversation about why I was being dismissed (performance) which was pretty jokey in itself and my being told I would pretty much best be leaving the premises immediately after the meeting had finished.
Now that the detail is out of the way I ask you am I not right in thinking that if the meeting was a dismissal meeting that I should have been given a clear indication of the nature of the meeting and in good time to prepare myself?
Secondly isn't there supposed to be a third, "independent" party taking minutes to stop the sort of thing happening that has happened here i.e me receiving minutes listing several faults aimed at me which were not mentioned in the meeting with neither party being able to prove what was actually said.
My one concern is that it's a probation period and that as such my grounds for appeal are limited.
My appeal will be based on one of these grounds but I don't have the space nor inclination to post it all up .

Thanks for listening.

You say here your appeal will be based on one of these grounds ( I assume the points you have raised above ) odd you haven't mentioned protected characteristic

It seems you are being dismissed through performance you make no mention of discrimination

johnnymac93

Hi Pelirocco.
It's a long story but believe me when in say that it's covered. I'm happy to leave this where it's at now.

nearlyrich

Perhaps as well to leave it, be nice to newbies by all means but there is no need for anyone to insult people who are trying to help.

Mara69

johnnymac93, you are priceless. I just love threads like this, they really make my day.