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probation termination advice

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  • miduck
    miduck Posts: 1,800 Forumite
    Thanks Takeaway_Addict.

    Yest i am to prove out to prove that they dismissed me for one of these characteristics.

    Miduck, yes I am claiming that I was dismissed due to having a protected characteristic?

    Hawk30. Thanks and i'm aware that i'd be better serverd by telling you which but I now have legal representation and not withstanding that I'd taken the measured approach of telling you all that I didn't want to go into detail from my original post. :A


    You have found a solicitor that has reviewed your case and agreed to take it on, in the last 25 minutes? :p
  • hawk30
    hawk30 Posts: 416 Forumite
    Right, so you are claiming a protected characteristic. You will need proof and legal representation. The procedure that they followed is irrelevant (unless you can somehow link it to your protected characteristic).
  • miduck. Yes,actually. Checked earlier and i'm covered for it under my home insurance :) given what i've just told them thus far they're with me. You however don't have all the detail and so assume too much. *<|:o)

    Hawk30. I have both. Ask miduck. :)
  • miduck
    miduck Posts: 1,800 Forumite
    miduck. Yes,actually. Checked earlier and i'm covered for it under my home insurance :) given what i've just told them thus far they're with me. You however don't have all the detail and so assume too much. *<|:o)

    Hawk30. I have both. Ask miduck. :)

    With respect, your posts on here make little sense. This is why I find it hard to believe that a sol has been able to make such a judgment in such a short time.

    Good luck, you are going to need it.
  • I'm sure you're on a wind up Sambucus Nigra.
    As I said, you don't need the detail to know the answer.
    If someone asks me how to get from A to B in their car and I know the way I don't ask them if they have any fuel in it!!

    No but if your car won't start, and we ask what's happening when you turn the key; probably good idea to tell the mechanic or they can't really assist.
    ;)
    If you haven't got it - please don't flaunt it. TIA.
  • DCFC79
    DCFC79 Posts: 40,641 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 22 January 2013 at 7:37PM
    miduck wrote: »
    You have found a solicitor that has reviewed your case and agreed to take it on, in the last 25 minutes? :p

    A pretty fast solicitor, maybe he was being paid double.

    In any case Im out of here.

    Good luck OP.
  • miduck
    miduck Posts: 1,800 Forumite
    DCFC79 wrote: »
    A pretty fast solicitor, maybe he was being paid double.

    In any case Im out of here.

    Good luck OP.

    I want to know who his insurers are - it is rare that you would even speak to a solicitor when you ring through, let alone have a decision in less than an hour! ;)
  • McKneff
    McKneff Posts: 38,857 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    What an absolute waste of everyones time.............
    make the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
    and we will never, ever return.
  • zzzLazyDaisy
    zzzLazyDaisy Posts: 12,497 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Okay, since I have nothing better to do....
    Hi all.

    What i'm wondering is if right from the off the company hasn't performed it's duty properly. For one thing I was given my invite to the meeting half a day before it began despite my LM having it two days prior. I was given it and told "Sorry I meant to give you this since Monday". I asked if I needed to bring anything or get anything ready and was told, "no it'll be fine, just bring yourself". Really?

    You are not entitled to any notice. The Statutory Disciplinary Procedure was repealed in April 2009, and since then there is no obligation on employers to follow any form of procedure before dismissing an employee who has not yet the statutory service requirement - which is now two years

    Now that the detail is out of the way I ask you am I not right in thinking that if the meeting was a dismissal meeting that I should have been given a clear indication of the nature of the meeting and in good time to prepare myself?

    No you are not right, see comments above

    Secondly isn't there supposed to be a third, "independent" party taking minutes to stop the sort of thing happening that has happened here

    No there is no such requirement. In fact even for employees who have two years service under their belt and qualify for statutory protection, there is still no obligation on the employer to provide a third independent party to take minutes (although if you had two years service you would have been entitled to be accompanied by a colleague or TU rep)

    My one concern is that it's a probation period and that as such my grounds for appeal are limited.
    My appeal will be based on one of these grounds but I don't have the space nor inclination to post it all up :) .

    Without giving us full information about the 'secret' grounds of appeal that you believe apply, we have no way of knowing whether they are valid or not. But so far, nothing you have said suggests that your dismissal was unlawful, or that you have any legal avenue of redress.

    Thanks for listening.

    OP don't waste our time. There are several experienced and knowledgeable people on this board who give their time and expertise freely, to help people who have disputes with their employer. If you want to play games, I suggest you go and play somewhere else.
    I'm a retired employment solicitor. Hopefully some of my comments might be useful, but they are only my opinion and not intended as legal advice.
  • johnnymac93
    johnnymac93 Posts: 31 Forumite
    edited 22 January 2013 at 11:08PM
    Throw your toys out of the pram why don't you.
    zzzLazyDaisy you answered my questions sufficiently and look to have done so without needing to know what my 'secret grounds for appeal' were. This was all I asked so thank you. But what's this. You too seem to feel aggreaved that I haven't posted my complete detail having just proved you didn't need it. Clown.

    I'm not bad i just wanted to keep something private. Crime? No. Vilified, definitely.
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