do you put tag water in your wind screen washer fluid reservoir ?

garethgas

Legionella is dormant at temperatures below 20 deg. So that's just alarmist nonsense.
I find it astonishing how gullible so many people are when it comes to these so called 'studies'
The virus is dormant below 20 deg and is killed above 60 deg

redux

garethgas wrote: »

Legionella is dormant at temperatures below 20 deg. So that's just alarmist nonsense.
I find it astonishing how gullible so many people are when it comes to these so called 'studies'
The virus is dormant below 20 deg and is killed above 60 deg

Nobody said it was happening this week.

The research results were originally published in the summer two and a half years ago.

I'm not an expert on this, but if the bacteria (not virus) are dormant (not dead) at night when it's cooler, then the ambient temperature rises to 25 or 30 degrees during the day, how would daytime or nighttime drivers or any other category of people with a body temperature of 37 degrees be protected ?

victor2

jm2926 wrote: »

Professional drivers are 5 times more likely to get legionnaires disease according to :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10293519

According to that article:

The number of cases vary from year to year, but in 2009 there were 345 in England and Wales - although some infections were caught overseas.

According to the office of national statistics, the population of England and Wales in 2009 was estimated at 55,235,500
So that puts the odds at 0.00062%, which if multiplied by 5 is still pretty small. Don't think I need to dress up as a nun just yet, I'll risk it.

reeac

Tiddlywinks wrote: »

Not being paranoid at all but... it's quite easy sometimes to inhale the vapours of a screen jet - using it with the windows open, walking past when someone else uses theirs...

We were driving through Normandy once with American friends and I happened to spray the windscreen while we were all drinking from small cartons of orange juice. When the alcoholic vapours wafted into the car my friend Tom said: "Ah! a screwdriver!"

andygb

reeac wrote: »

We were driving through Normandy once with American friends and I happened to spray the windscreen while we were all drinking from small cartons of orange juice. When the alcoholic vapours wafted into the car my friend Tom said: "Ah! a screwdriver!"

I always buy my screenwash when we go over to France, because it seems to work better and is cheaper, but the most important reason is that you get a distinct whiff of Marc de Bourgogne when you clean the screen:D

Valli

phill99 wrote: »

So why all this sudden ridiculous and pointless paranoia about "We are all going to die because I don't have screen wash in the car"?

Who said that?

I use screenwash in my water bottle because it helps remove dust and dirt from my screen in summer and in winter because it lowers the freezing point of the water.

Like I said ANY water left standing in any kind of container CAN harbour these bacteria; if any kind of mist/spray is then ejected from the water container (eg a shower head) it can then be breathed in and cause a problem.

With Legionella prevention is a lot simpler than then trying to find the source of the outbreak and deal with it; in the interim vulnerable victims may well have succumbed. But the numbers are very small.

dada44

say in temperatures of -2, wont the water just freeze in the compartment near the engine?

also, can washing up liquid protect against legionella ?

vikingaero

Even with screenwash, the heat from the engine will promote the growth of some scummy jelly substance. I drain off and rinse out the screenwash reservoir, refill with screenwash and water and a tiny splash of Dettol.

zappahey

victor2 wrote: »

According to that article:

According to the office of national statistics, the population of England and Wales in 2009 was estimated at 55,235,500
So that puts the odds at 0.00062%, which if multiplied by 5 is still pretty small. Don't think I need to dress up as a nun just yet, I'll risk it.

Absolutely, I detest the way the press sex up these stories by using relative change in risk, rather than absolute.

For a professional driver, the risk has gone up from infinitesimal to tiny.

Dave_C_2

Everyone is missing the elephant in the room. The screen wash sprays on the outside of the screen and the driver is on the inside. So the risk of inhaling the spray is negligible, especially when the car is moving.

Also I have the windows shut when washing the screen, otherwise I get a soggy right arm.:)

For a more balanced view look here

ETA
The windscreen washers don't produce a aerosol spray as such, more a few jets of fluid aimed at different points on the screen.

Dave