Social services onto me about not having child in nursery! Advice needed

squirrelchops

Knowing how busy children's services are they are not going to visit a family when it is just about not sending a child to nursery.

There has to be more to it than this such as the health visitor has real concerns that the child's developement is impaired in some way.

Also knowing how stretched the health visiting services are too I am sure they too would not be suggestion they need to remain involved unless there were other concerns.

johnnyl

paddy's_mum wrote: »

OP - I can name half a dozen children off the top of my head who would still be alive today if their Health Visitor had been as diligent and skilled as yours is!

nonsense

in such examples actual evidence of physical abuse was ignored. At no point has anyone been killed because they opted out of a system with a valid reason.

squirrelchops

johnnyl wrote: »

nonsense

in such examples actual evidence of physical abuse was ignored. At no point has anyone been killed because they opted out of a system with a valid reason.

However there is 'disguised compliance' (not that I am suggesting this is pertinent to the OP just a response to your post)

Own_My_Own

johnnyl wrote: »

nobody is trying to hide anyone, they simply dont want that service and have excersized a (and I will highlight this since it has gone unoticed) "LEGAL RIGHT"

to choose not to use that service.

Not only have they excersized a right, they have given a perfectly valid reason for this. Just because the so called proffesional experts have been unproffesional enough to avoid dealing with kids who have been beaten black and blue and ignored signs like a kid having 20+ cigarrette burns on them does not justify them hounding someone for excersizing a legal right to choose.

Go and have a cup of and calm down. Your'll make yourself ill, with all this excitement.

emg

I agree it will be the withdrawing from services that will have triggered the referral. The majority of the families that have safeguarding issues will have withdrawn (or attempted to withdraw) from services at some point and there have been some high-profile cases recently that have made professionals over cautious, particularly when children are not attending school.

In my job I have to notify the Health Visitor of all children who don't attend appointments. I know that some of them will have valid reasons but our safeguarding procedures mean I have to let the HV know, it's not a choice I get to make. Your HV probably has similar procedures that mean she has to notify SS. The procedures are there to protect children from falling through the net and also to protect the NHS from litigation if anything happens to that family. She wont have referred you because 'her nose was out of joint'. She will have referred you because she has to. It's unfortunate that the bad families make us have to be more suspicious of all families and refer them whether we think there are issues or not.

bylromarha

The nanny state gets on my nerves too...except when it comes to kids.

OP - you are right that you don't have to send your child to nursery. You are right that the majority of health visitors are a waste of space. But do not deny SS access as they are the frontline people in our society that are charged with protecting our kids. Show them what a good job you're doing, register your complaints whilst you chat and let them take you off their overflowing caseload so they can move onto another family whose kids DO need their help.

notanewuser

geri1965 wrote: »

We didn't have "pre-school" when I was a child - I stayed at home with my mum until I went to infant school. Didn't stop me growing up to be a fully fledged useful member of society.

Sounds to me like the OP's child has enough company and stimulation from the people around her not to be disadvantaged when she goes to school.

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I saw no mention in the OP of involvement with other children.....??

RE preschool/nursery - assuming you were born in 1965 you are 12 years older than me. My nursery teacher at age 3 was in her 50s and had been teaching at the nursery for over 20 years (so since 1960 at least).

Person_one

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

Who knows? You need to get to the bottom of why the referral was made and what actual concerns the HV had. Surely she needs to have made some concrete concerns?

Amyloofoo and Tupperware_Queen have explained it very clearly, it makes complete sense.

OP, it won't be because the HV has had her 'nose put out of joint' because trust me, she'll have heard far worse.

Personally, I think its wonderful that we live in a country where people outside the family are looking out for children's wellbeing, where there's an investment by society at large in making sure each and every baby is safe and well looked after. Better than the alternative of leaving them to their fates and not caring surely?

notanewuser

PinkLipgloss wrote: »

I appreciate you have a large support network and experience of raising an older child however I really fail to see what issue is with having a health visitor check your baby from time to time!

You are probably not wanting to hear this but I completely understand why concerns were raised.

Where does the OP say that she and her partner have experience of raising an older child?

suki1964

notanewuser wrote: »

Where does the OP say that she and her partner have experience of raising an older child?

Where they say that have a four year old