cost of heating for 1 day

macman

sniggings wrote: »

not really as knowing what the average someone pays can help you see if you need to make changes, yes there are other and better ways to get the same info but I'm not doing research for a paper for uni, just wanting to get a feel for what the average person pays for gas.

But since homes vary enormously in their size and insulation, and families vary in their lifestyles, hours at home and room temp required, the average tells you absolutely nothing.
How will knowing what someone spends per year in a totally different property, with a totally different lifestyle, tell you if you could save money on your utility bills?
You might as well ask, 'what's the average paid for car insurance'?

sniggings

macman wrote: »

But since homes vary enormously in their size and insulation, and families vary in their lifestyles, hours at home and room temp required, the average tells you absolutely nothing.
How will knowing what someone spends per year in a totally different property, with a totally different lifestyle, tell you if you could save money on your utility bills?
You might as well ask, 'what's the average paid for car insurance'?

or ask what is the average house price or the average wage or the average... most things have an average, all i was after was an...average :rotfl:

HappyMJ

sniggings wrote: »

or ask what is the average house price or the average wage or the average... most things have an average, all i was after was an...average :rotfl:

The average for an older boiler in an older property such as yours is 20,500kWh per year. For a newer more economic boiler and smaller house the average is 16,500kWh per year. The average house is now a reasonably well insulated 3 bedroom house an older house may have less insulation or may have solid walls rather than cavity walls as newer houses tend to have. Your flat may have no insulation at all between floors and neighbouring flats. Is your flat fully double glazed?

The average is about 60% of the annual usage is used over 4 months of the year so 20,500kWh * 60% divided by 120 days would be about 100kWh per day multiplied by your unit rate plus any standing charges so about £4 to £5 per day is quite reasonable.

You also have to take the number of occupants for the hot water usage into account too the average family would be 2 adults and 2 children.

You also have to take into account what you set your temperature to...the average house is set at 21 in the living areas and 18 in the bedrooms. The average house in the UK have bedrooms above living rooms and the heat transferred through the ceiling from the living rooms keep bedrooms warm overnight without any additional heating.

And...the number of hours it's set to...most people do have central heating on for quite a long time maybe 24 hours a day over winter. Having heating on 24 hours a day does cost more than 10 hours but it really isn't that much more at all as it cycles on/off all the time rather than staying on full for the first hour or so in each heating period in the morning and evening.

sniggings

HappyMJ wrote: »

The average for an older boiler in an older property such as yours is 20,500kWh per year. For a newer more economic boiler and smaller house the average is 16,500kWh per year. The average house is now a reasonably well insulated 3 bedroom house an older house may have less insulation or may have solid walls rather than cavity walls as newer houses tend to have. Your flat may have no insulation at all between floors and neighbouring flats. Is your flat fully double glazed?

The average is about 60% of the annual usage is used over 4 months of the year so 20,500kWh * 60% divided by 120 days would be about 100kWh per day multiplied by your unit rate plus any standing charges so about £4 to £5 per day is quite reasonable.

You also have to take the number of occupants for the hot water usage into account too the average family would be 2 adults and 2 children.

You also have to take into account what you set your temperature to...the average house is set at 21 in the living areas and 18 in the bedrooms. The average house in the UK have bedrooms above living rooms and the heat transferred through the ceiling from the living rooms keep bedrooms warm overnight without any additional heating.

And...the number of hours it's set to...most people do have central heating on for quite a long time maybe 24 hours a day over winter. Having heating on 24 hours a day does cost more than 10 hours but it really isn't that much more at all as it cycles on/off all the time rather than staying on full for the first hour or so in each heating period in the morning and evening.

spot on mate, glad to see I'm well average

macman

sniggings wrote: »

or ask what is the average house price or the average wage or the average... most things have an average, all i was after was an...average :rotfl:

You still don't get it. If we're talking wages, some footballers earn a £100,000 a week. Some footballers earn £500 a week. The differential is a factor of 200. You can certainly calculate an average from that, but it tells you absolutely nothing useful.

timmmers

sniggings wrote: »

do me a favour, get a match or a lighter and hold your finger 4 inches from the flame, I bet you can all but not feel any heat, are you really saying that that much heat or lack off can heat a boiler that is not even in the same room as the flame and the pipes around the house, even if the pump was on it would be pushing it, but with the pump off it would be impossible.

Thanks for trying to make me get over my stress about wasting 40p a day though but sorry you will not convince me it's anything but a waste of fuel and money.

Try this instead. Get a large plastic container late at night and fill it with boiling water or as near as you can manage, wrap it in a towel or some insulating cloth material and pop it on your car before you go to bed.
When you wake up you'll find either no ice on your windows or very little.
It takes very little energy to keep ice at bay in an enclosed space, any gardener will tell you that if they have a greenhouse and a tiny paraffin heater.
The pilot will stop the water inside the boiler freezing AND BURSTING the fragile internal pipes which would be the end of some boilers and expensive to fix.

lkmc01

From the middle of October 2012 to the start of January 2013 in a 3 bedroomed 1930's terrace house with double glazing, an old but maintained back boiler, loft insulation and cavity wall insulation with someone in the house all day we have paid £2.95 per day for gas. My parents think this is very high but my partners parents have paid double that.

chiller

Leaving my timer on 24/7 controlled by room thermostat at 21degrees costs me around £4 a day, less if temperature outside is above freezing.

sniggings

chiller wrote: »

Leaving my timer on 24/7 controlled by room thermostat at 21degrees costs me around £4 a day, less if temperature outside is above freezing.

wow have you an extra insulated house?