cost of heating for 1 day

sniggings

HappyMJ wrote: »

Ever been to an Indian? They usually use 2 tea lights to keep the food hot whilst you are eating a small amount. Each tea light has a flame rated at 80W. It's enough to keep your dinner hot for hours....A 400W flame in your boiler will be plenty to keep the pipes warm enough.

lets say I agree with your tea ligh example ( I don't by the way, probably one of the reasons why one tends to get the !!!!!! after an indian as the food is not kept hot enough :rotfl:) but the difference being the water is no where near the pilot light and the water is not pumping around the system, even if the pilot light was right under the boiler, the heat could not possibly be enough to combat the heat loss of that much water that is at freezing temp and which is not even being pumped around the system.

Ever tried making a cup of tea when camping with a camp stove, it takes hours (well a long time) and those stoves give out some heat, now think of a pilot light and a volume of water in a heating system and a freezing house...just not happening is it.

HappyMJ

sniggings wrote: »

lets say I agree with your tea ligh example ( I don't by the way, probably one of the reasons why one tends to get the !!!!!! after an indian as the food is not kept hot enough :rotfl:) but the difference being the water is no where near the pilot light and the water is not pumping around the system, even if the pilot light was right under the boiler, the heat could not possibly be enough to combat the heat loss of that much water that is at freezing temp and which is not even being pumped around the system.

Ever tried making a cup of tea when camping with a camp stove, it takes hours (well a long time) and those stoves give out some heat, more think of a pilot light and a volume of water in a heating system and a freezing house...just not happening is it.

It doesn't need to be much heat just enough to keep the uninsulated pipes in a boiler from freezing..only needs to be a few degrees above freezing and nowhere near what i would consider warm. Water in radiators have enough thermal mass and take a lot longer to freeze than the small pipes in a boiler which could freeze after several days at temperatures of consistently minus 10 or below outside. The inside of a house is always warmer than outside even with the heating off. The sun even though there is a major lack of it at this time of year will heat the house just enough using solar radiation, the heat stays inside the house and takes several hours..i.e overnight to leak out again through well insulated walls so keeping the house just above freezing all year round. Kitchens or garages tend to be very well ventilated for safety purposes and lose heat a lot quicker than any other room so that's where frozen pipes tend to occur.

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depending on your tarrif, 40p may be about 11kwh of gas, which should be enough to run a pilot light and provide a days hot water (30 minutes water heating) in summer.

sniggings

closed wrote: »

depending on your tarrif, 40p may be about 11kwh of gas, which should be enough to run a pilot light and provide a days hot water (30 minutes water heating) in summer.

maybe but the same amount of heat spread over 24 hours will not keep pipes from freezing, not to mention that most of this heat the pilot light generates is lost though the air vents in the boiler.

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on it's own, it's not going to prevent a whole house from freezing in a siberian winter, but helps stop the boiler/heat exchanger from frost damage - academic really, that's what you've got and older style boilers tend to be a lot more reliable than condensing, especially in cold weather.

Got your readings yet?

sniggings

closed wrote: »

Got your readings yet?

I did have but forgot to check the time when I took them, so have started again, I took a reading at 4.15 so I'll wait to 8.15 to give me 4 hours, which should be enough to get an idea.

Not sure tho how to read this meter? does 369.143 m3 make any sense? as this meter is totally difference others I have had.

sniggings

ok could not wait 4 hours so here are the figures after 3, I have no idea if I have the correct reading tho

start 366.708
finish 368.963

gives a total of 2.255 for 3 hours

I'm with BG online variable to august I think it was, anyone make any sense of that

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8.39 kw/hour about 30p/hour but you need to check your prices. You'd probably use more when it's first switched on.

sniggings

closed wrote: »

8.39 kw/hour about 30p/hour but you need to check your prices. You'd probably use more when it's first switched on.

oh I forgot the cost was £1.16 for those 3 hours so about 39p an hour?

standing charge is 25.990 unit price is 4.540

macman

sniggings wrote: »

not really as knowing what the average someone pays can help you see if you need to make changes, yes there are other and better ways to get the same info but I'm not doing research for a paper for uni, just wanting to get a feel for what the average person pays for gas.

But since homes vary enormously in their size and insulation, and families vary in their lifestyles, hours at home and room temp required, the average tells you absolutely nothing.
How will knowing what someone spends per year in a totally different property, with a totally different lifestyle, tell you if you could save money on your utility bills?