Would you like a security job at the airport - well 1/10th of a security job maybe?

2sides2everystory

Saw this job advert today for Stansted:

Ever wanted to work at an Airport?

Are you a confident, customer focused individual with a strict attention to detail and eager to work within an Airport environment?

Our client is a leading airport operator who operates their airport in a way that seeks to meet the needs of passengers and airlines alike. They are currently looking to recruit professional, respectful, consistent and efficient Airport Security Officers based at their site in Stansted on a permanent contract.

Salary: Basic Hourly Rate: £10.66 + Shift Pay + Benefits

Hours: 240 hours to be spread across the year + possibility of additional hours

This is a permanent Annualised Hours contract which means we will guarantee you 240 hours across the year with the potential of additional hours during our busy periods i.e. Easter, summer and Christmas.

The main purpose of this role is to maintain security standards and ensure the smooth transition of all customers, staff, airport users and vehicles through the airport in accordance with Airport Security Managers' Directives and Department for Transport regulations.

Principle Accountabilities:

* To screen all personnel passing through restricted areas, by using both archway detectors and manual body searching where necessary

* To screen all items being carried into restricted areas, using x-ray screening and trace detection equipment and to undertake manual searching, in order to ensure that no prohibited items are taken into the restricted zone and to ensure that the safety of the aircraft, passengers and crews is maintained.
* Patrol the terminal and airside areas to ensure the terminal is secure e.g. any potential security risks are identified and that the presence of any personnel is justified and that airside to landside doors are secure
* To check identification and/or travel documents for all passengers, staff and airport users requiring access requiring access to restricted areas
* To communicate effectively, demonstrating empathy and understanding to passengers whilst ensuring that security procedures are followed in all cases
* To assist with emergency situations which could arise within the terminals
* To co-operate with a number of other organisations e.g. Police, Customs, Immigration, Fire Service, Airlines
* To participate in projects and working parties and to carry out any other duties that may be outside the standard remit for the purpose of personnel development, or as may be reasonably required by the Company

To be successful in your application you will have;

* Experience of working in a front line customer service role
* The ability to stand for long periods of time, reach up and bend down during body searches and lift hand luggage
* Must have full colour vision, to meet the provisions of Section 25 of the National Aviation Security Programme
* Good observation and object recognition
* Ability to read, understand, write and speak fluent English at a level which will enable the completion of security documentation and effective communication with the immediate team and passengers

Is this really what we have come to in the jobs market and in proper major airport security? Would the employer even recognise your face when you came in to work? How would you remain current ?

callum9999

2sides2everystory wrote: »

Saw this job advert today for Stansted:

Ever wanted to work at an Airport?

Are you a confident, customer focused individual with a strict attention to detail and eager to work within an Airport environment?

Our client is a leading airport operator who operates their airport in a way that seeks to meet the needs of passengers and airlines alike. They are currently looking to recruit professional, respectful, consistent and efficient Airport Security Officers based at their site in Stansted on a permanent contract.

Salary: Basic Hourly Rate: £10.66 + Shift Pay + Benefits

Hours: 240 hours to be spread across the year + possibility of additional hours

This is a permanent Annualised Hours contract which means we will guarantee you 240 hours across the year with the potential of additional hours during our busy periods i.e. Easter, summer and Christmas.

The main purpose of this role is to maintain security standards and ensure the smooth transition of all customers, staff, airport users and vehicles through the airport in accordance with Airport Security Managers' Directives and Department for Transport regulations.

Principle Accountabilities:

* To screen all personnel passing through restricted areas, by using both archway detectors and manual body searching where necessary

* To screen all items being carried into restricted areas, using x-ray screening and trace detection equipment and to undertake manual searching, in order to ensure that no prohibited items are taken into the restricted zone and to ensure that the safety of the aircraft, passengers and crews is maintained.
* Patrol the terminal and airside areas to ensure the terminal is secure e.g. any potential security risks are identified and that the presence of any personnel is justified and that airside to landside doors are secure
* To check identification and/or travel documents for all passengers, staff and airport users requiring access requiring access to restricted areas
* To communicate effectively, demonstrating empathy and understanding to passengers whilst ensuring that security procedures are followed in all cases
* To assist with emergency situations which could arise within the terminals
* To co-operate with a number of other organisations e.g. Police, Customs, Immigration, Fire Service, Airlines
* To participate in projects and working parties and to carry out any other duties that may be outside the standard remit for the purpose of personnel development, or as may be reasonably required by the Company

To be successful in your application you will have;

* Experience of working in a front line customer service role
* The ability to stand for long periods of time, reach up and bend down during body searches and lift hand luggage
* Must have full colour vision, to meet the provisions of Section 25 of the National Aviation Security Programme
* Good observation and object recognition
* Ability to read, understand, write and speak fluent English at a level which will enable the completion of security documentation and effective communication with the immediate team and passengers

Is this really what we have come to in the jobs market and in proper major airport security? Would the employer even recognise your face when you came in to work? How would you remain current ?

Remain current in what? Things don't change that much, and when they do I would assume they would either be told or given training to cover it if necessary.

I really don't see why you're making such a big deal out of it... Airport security really isn't a difficult thing to do - the only areas that are difficult would be devising the strategy and procedures in the first place. Obviously something whoever gets this role wouldn't be doing.

antenna

This is a Mc Job...........flip a burger,clock out,when it's done clock in again

skivenov

Basically, it's an agency trying not to be an agency by giving it's employees a fixed contract.

The thing is, they can't neccessarily guarantee how many people their client will want and when, so rather than give a zero hours contract, they pick an arbitary small number over the year.

In my last employed job, I was contracted for 365 hours a year, in reality, I did that many some months.

2sides2everystory

callum9999 wrote: »

I really don't see why you're making such a big deal out of it... Airport security really isn't a difficult thing to do - the only areas that are difficult would be devising the strategy and procedures in the first place. Obviously something whoever gets this role wouldn't be doing.

Oh right, the contrarian view from Uncle contrary himself - so that'd be why the army had to be called in at the last minute when G4S were left to devise the strategy and procedures in the first place at the Olympics - a very similar role to airport security and indeed one that required keeping current with the latest risks, the level of alertness pervading on a particular day, plus all the other changes on a very complicated and fast developing local site.

I suggest you do a bit of research or get a bit of experience before you post please on matters upon which you obviously start without a clue.


So, what a beautifully thoughtful set of responses from a day of exposure to millions of the UK's finest minds ... NOT

miduck

2sides2everystory wrote: »

Oh right, the contrarian view from Uncle contrary himself - so that'd be why the army had to be called in at the last minute when G4S were left to devise the strategy and procedures in the first place at the Olympics - a very similar role to airport security and indeed one that required keeping current with the latest risks, the level of alertness pervading on a particular day, plus all the other changes on a very complicated and fast developing local site.

I suggest you do a bit of research or get a bit of experience before you post please on matters upon which you obviously start without a clue.


So, what a beautifully thoughtful set of responses from a day of exposure to millions of the UK's finest minds ... NOT

Such a shame that you have to be rude to anyone disagrees with you. I guess a customer facing role is not for you!

callum9999

2sides2everystory wrote: »

Oh right, the contrarian view from Uncle contrary himself - so that'd be why the army had to be called in at the last minute when G4S were left to devise the strategy and procedures in the first place at the Olympics - a very similar role to airport security and indeed one that required keeping current with the latest risks, the level of alertness pervading on a particular day, plus all the other changes on a very complicated and fast developing local site.

I suggest you do a bit of research or get a bit of experience before you post please on matters upon which you obviously start without a clue.


So, what a beautifully thoughtful set of responses from a day of exposure to millions of the UK's finest minds ... NOT

You are one of the most pathetic people I've ever come across on here...

There was nothing wrong with the "security strategy" created by G4S itself - they just couldn't train enough people to fulfil it, hence the army. They were just glorified security guards and weren't involved in planning it (the bits contracted out to G4S anyway).

I repeat, WHAT risks. They might just forget that you can't carry machetes onto planes and start letting them through security with them?

It's not a "complicated" site at all (from a passenger perspective), have you ever been to an airport? There is the landside section and an airside section, with security checkpoints in between - it's not as if people are blindly wondering in and out unchecked and you have to keep an eye on them all...

2sides2everystory

callum9999 wrote: »

You are one of the most pathetic people I've ever come across on here...

There was nothing wrong with the "security strategy" created by G4S itself - they just couldn't train enough people to fulfil it, hence the army. They were just glorified security guards and weren't involved in planning it (the bits contracted out to G4S anyway).

I repeat, WHAT risks. They might just forget that you can't carry machetes onto planes and start letting them through security with them?

It's not a "complicated" site at all (from a passenger perspective), have you ever been to an airport? There is the landside section and an airside section, with security checkpoints in between - it's not as if people are blindly wondering in and out unchecked and you have to keep an eye on them all...

PKB and all that. I don't recall posting about how a simple passenger perceives an airport and its associated security risks. I was talking about the complex nature of the background risk which changes daily, and the special risks at a complex site (which also can and does change quite rapidly throughout the season as they refit and rejig the layout constantly) and of course the personnel changes. So you are wearing a uniform but I don't know you and what door did you say you used to get to this point?

However you dismiss such things (if you ever even conceived of them) and would have us believe you may not even have the capacity to imagine beyond a machete in a handbag of a punter presenting themselves and their bag and their machete to the first security guard they spot :rotfl:

How much time have you ever spent at Stansted airport? I estimate I have spent 1000 hours in it with my eyes and ears open. I also have a modicom of experience in aviation and airport security, and in old-fashioned risk assessment that I didn't pick up as a passenger or on one day course.

How about you, big shot?

phatbear

2sides2everystory wrote: »

How much time have you ever spent at Stansted airport? I estimate I have spent 1000 hours in it with my eyes and ears open.

Well having spent just over 2200 hours a year at STN for the past 9 years I can tell you that these jobs are designed for, and usually advertised internally, as jobs for students who can only work out of term time and oddly when the airport is at its busiest.

Of course the advert cant say that directly as it would be discriminating against non-students etc

2sides2everystory

phatbear wrote: »

Well having spent just over 2200 hours a year at STN for the past 9 years I can tell you that these jobs are designed for, and usually advertised internally, as jobs for students who can only work out of term time and oddly when the airport is at its busiest.

Of course the advert cant say that directly as it would be discriminating against non-students etc

Well that's equally interesting, phatbear. As a Stansted local who therefore we might imagine experiences and abides by airport security every day by the sound of it, do you believe that students of all people with no life experience, few connections at the airport, no loyalty, and ears green all the way through are likely to be the right stuff i.e. reliable in any airport security personnel role if they only get 6 weeks work a year at it? I don't - not even for one minute.

phatbear

2sides2everystory wrote: »

do you believe that students of all people with no life experience, few connections at the airport, no loyalty, and ears green all the way through are likely to be the right stuff i.e. reliable in any airport security personnel role if they only get 6 weeks work a year at it? I don't - not even for one minute.

1st off you make it sound like all students are 16 to 18 years old and haven't lived which I can tell you from personal experience is far from the truth.

So would a student who left college and had "no life experience" be allowed to join the army and carry a gun and fight for their nation? of course they would so why should'nt they be allowed to work as security at an airport?

Would you trust an 18 year old nurse if you were in hospital? or would you insist on someone older and more experienced?