Need to by extension phone lead for Router.. RJ11? RJ12? RJ45

System

I was talking about extending the telephone line using standard telephone components and then use the existing RJ11 to BT plug cable.

stevemcol

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I was talking about extending the telephone line using standard telephone components and then use the existing RJ11 to BT plug cable.

OK. That's not the way I read the OP. I do feel though from the limited experience I've had and the wide experiences of the engineer I spoke to (you may be one, apologies if so), that in nearly all circumstances ethernet wiring is far more tolerant of poor connections, extended wiring and RF interference than domestic phone wiring. My personal recommendation? If there's a choice I'd extend using Cat 5/6 over RJ11 everytime, especially if there is any element of DIY or cheap extension cable involved.
Do we agree?

Willing2Learn

The thing is, the rj11 cable from Maplin linked to earlier in this thread is not a decent quality and is bog-standard flat cable that may lead to possible signal degradation. Much better, if someone is to use an extension patch lead, to consider either twisted CW1308 or CAT5e as they are a much better at maintaining good signal quality.

@bobbentos
I've never seen a Sky microfilter but assume they are the same as BTs in which case I recommend either:
RJ11 to RJ11 CW1308 (twisted pair) patch lead. This is the ADSL to ADSL you referred to in your second post. Or,
RJ11 to RJ45 CW1308 (twisted pair) patch lead. RJ11 would plug into the filter and RJ45 would plug into available ethernet socket on router.

Alternatively, if you currently have a BT NTE5 master socket, you could replace the faceplate with a BT Openreach NTE5 2005 faceplate so that you no longer require the microfilter and use a CAT5e RJ45 to RJ11 patch lead. This would be my preferred option if it was me.

I haven't done a link for the last cable as you would need to make that cable up (the company I linked to will make custom leads as they've done it for me before)

System

stevemcol wrote: »

OK. That's not the way I read the OP. I do feel though from the limited experience I've had and the wide experiences of the engineer I spoke to (you may be one, apologies if so), that in nearly all circumstances ethernet wiring is far more tolerant of poor connections, extended wiring and RF interference than domestic phone wiring. My personal recommendation? If there's a choice I'd extend using Cat 5/6 over RJ11 everytime, especially if there is any element of DIY or cheap extension cable involved.
Do we agree?

I agree that Cat 5 is the best option but I thought we were talking about moving the whole router and purchasing items that were probably locally available. RJ11 extensions using Cat 5 are not a 'standard' cable although I suppose that you could use 2 RJ11-RJ45 adaptors either end of a standard Cat 5 but having 4 physical connections in the line WILL cause performance problems.

kwikbreaks

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TBH extension leads are probably better quality than the cable used to run a telephone line around the inside of a house. The ringwire problem is easily solved by disconnecting it at the master socket. Modern phones make no use of the ringwires so that will not be a problem.

You cannot disconnect the ringwire in a plug in extension without attacking it with a Stanley knife or similar. With a hard wired extension you can simply not connect the ringwire and that will usually be just fine. In fact decent quality (ie twisted pair not flat) plugin extensions are OK with the very latest master sockets as they include a choke in the ringwire which prevents the noise from being transferred back onto the ADSL pair.

What it boils down to is if in doubt avoid running the router on any extension because ham fisted installation of a hard wired extension or using a plug in one risks messing up your speed.

stevemcol

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I agree that Cat 5 is the best option but I thought we were talking about moving the whole router and purchasing items that were probably locally available. RJ11 extensions using Cat 5 are not a 'standard' cable although I suppose that you could use 2 RJ11-RJ45 adaptors either end of a standard Cat 5 but having 4 physical connections in the line WILL cause performance problems.

He was talking about moving the router and I (and other posters Kwikbreaks / Penrhyn) were trying to say leave the router where it is and extend the Ethernet side, if you can. (Aplogies for mixing my descriptions [CAT5/RJ11], to be clear I am saying extend the CAT 5 side [Ethernet] not CW1308 [Telephony]. Phew.