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  • GeorgeHowell
    GeorgeHowell Posts: 2,739 Forumite
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Ultimately majority view does rule. As those in power find themselves deposed. The world is still evolving after several thousand years. Likely to continue to do so for many years to come.

    A very optimistic and idealistic assessment : Russia ? China ? Zimbabwe ? And deposing of autocrats does not always result in anything more democractic : eg Iran.

    I think we're going to need several thousand more years (if we survive that long) before there's any chance of that applying everywhere. As I point out above we don't even have it here, and relatively speaking we are one of the more democratic outfits in the world.
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    GeorgeHowell wrote: »
    A very optimistic and idealistic assessment : Russia ? China ? Zimbabwe ? And deposing of autocrats does not always result in anything more democractic : eg Iran.

    I think we're going to need several thousand more years (if we survive that long) before there's any chance of that applying everywhere. As I point out above we don't even have it here, and relatively speaking we are one of the more democratic outfits in the world.

    Was the British Empire the ideal model of democracy and upstanding?

    No one complains about the wealth that it made us. That benefits us even today.
  • GeorgeHowell
    GeorgeHowell Posts: 2,739 Forumite
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Was the British Empire the ideal model of democracy and upstanding?

    No one complains about the wealth that it made us. That benefits us even today.

    Not sure why you bring up the British Empire. We gave virtually all of it independence and only a portion of it now embraces what we would accept as true democracy (or as close as you can get to it in the real world). I would have though that was another example that disproves your notion that majority view always wins out in the end.
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    GeorgeHowell wrote: »
    Not sure why you bring up the British Empire. We gave virtually all of it independence and only a portion of it now embraces what we would accept as true democracy (or as close as you can get to it in the real world). I would have though that was another example that disproves your notion that majority view always wins out in the end.

    I think Britain can be very proud that she left India as the world's largest democracy and remains so.
  • GeorgeHowell
    GeorgeHowell Posts: 2,739 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »
    I think Britain can be very proud that she left India as the world's largest democracy and remains so.

    Agreed. But what about Pakistan, Burma, most of the former African possessions, and all sorts of nasty little regimes in small former British colonies ?
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    GeorgeHowell wrote: »
    Agreed. But what about Pakistan, Burma, most of the former African possessions, and all sorts of nasty little regimes in small former British colonies ?

    What about them?
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    Generali wrote: »
    Mostly good points and let's be honest, we all know who the party idiots are on here and you're not one of them.

    I think if we could discuss honestly held views rather than go for the Tories yay, Labour boo stuff then this board would be even better. If we are going to view the world in a partisan way then I'd rather discuss football. Spurs yay, Ars**al boo.

    The problem arises when some people make untrue and ridiculous statements about certain Political parties, it draws a response that 'prima facie' appears to be Party politicking but in reality is just addressing a media induced fallacy.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • GeorgeHowell
    GeorgeHowell Posts: 2,739 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »
    What about them?

    The majority view has almost certainly not prevailed.
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
  • GeorgeHowell
    GeorgeHowell Posts: 2,739 Forumite
    edited 20 January 2013 at 2:30PM
    StevieJ wrote: »
    The problem arises when some people make untrue and ridiculous statements about certain Political parties, it draws a response that 'prima facie' appears to be Party politicking but in reality is just addressing a media induced fallacy.

    You mean like jibes about "arrogant posh boys" and "toffs" ?
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    GeorgeHowell wrote: »
    You mean like jibes about "arrogant posh boys" and "toffs" ?

    Could be, if untrue :)
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
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