7 degrees upstairs

Richie-from-the-Boro

fed_up_and_stressed wrote: »

What medical qualifications that you hold ..and what assessment you have made of the OP ? Suggest OP speaks to her doctor about HER medical history /health.

I did #13, three posts before yours - I precisely said """take advice from your GP - I don't know your general or your pulmonary health status."""

I have acknowledged from my first post the whole dwelling is under-heated. I have acknowledged the bedroom is under-heated and precisely said in #9 """leave the landing storage alone and get a panel heater such as this, plug into a 13a socket in your bedroom and switch it on an hour before you go to bed""" It was also #9 where I precisely said """Get registered as a vulnerable person""" - this would give the O/P access to not only 'Warm Front' but many other privileged benefits and discounts. In #18 the O/P states the night storage heater in the landing is "hot all through the night", in which case why is the bedroom at @ 7°C ?. Or conversely if money is that short, move the landing storage into the bedroom, until money can be found to do the job properly.

Likestowrite

In #18 the O/P states the night storage heater in the landing is "hot all through the night", in which case why is the bedroom at @ 7°C ?.

The heater is hot when it's on and throwing out heat as well as storing it and bedroom goes up to 11 degrees when I run the storage heater for the full 15 hours cheap rate for several days, but even that isn't really warm enough according to that article (the article said health risks start at less than 20 degrees that 18C - recommended bedroom temperature
16C - resistance to respiratory diseases weakened
12C - more than two hours at this temperature raises blood pressure and increases heart attack and stroke risk
5C - Significant risk of hypothermia

I can see now that I need more heating as 11 degrees is dangerous even though I'm in good health. And I need to heat my water at night on the cheap tariff. Just couldn't see why, if I got more storage heaters I'd need to change to E7. Why 15 hours, all of them at the cheap rate, is not as good as 7 hours cheap rate on E7.

Maybe the E7 has just the one meter and gives seperate daytime and night time readings? That whatever I use in the 7 hours in the night on E7 (washing machine, immersion --needs a PartL water system-- and panel heaters) would be at the cheap rate? Sorry to be so dense but this is all new to me--- but I think I'm beginning to understand.

rogerblack

Likestowrite wrote: »

18C[/B] - recommended bedroom temperature
16C - resistance to respiratory diseases weakened
12C - more than two hours at this temperature raises blood pressure and increases heart attack and stroke risk
5C - Significant risk of hypothermia

Which article is recommending this - part of it is clearly !!!!!!!!.
It seems to confuse air, and body temperature.
If you are nice and toasty warm in bed - or indeed anywhere else - you're not getting hypothermia.

An electric blanket, or adequate clothing can make you warm even in the coldest conditions.

I note it's 8C in here, and I'm typing with gloves on, on an electric blanket, with two t-shirts, a shirt, a couple of sweatshirts on, and I'm quite warm.
I am about to get out of bed in fact as I'm too hot.

If addressing a 'normally' dressed person, sitting in a chair inactive - the above temperatures do not seem unreasonable.

If you are able to take measures to keep your core temperature nice and piping hot - they seem at best questionable, at worst ridiculous in some cases.

If your condition - mental or physical - means that you cannot properly dress in an appropriate manner, or work an electric blanket properly - the above temperatures I would agree with.

sniggings

SailorSam wrote: »

Given your position wouldn't you start thinking, should i look at downsizing to something that's easier to maintain.

that was my first thought!

unless the OP wants to stay where she is, the heating problem may not be a big problem now but in a few years it may become one.

Instead of spending money fixing the heating, you could downsize to a really nice warm flat or small house, which would put money in the bank not take it out.

but if you really want to stay, I would bit the bullet now and get Gas central heating, way easier to control, cheaper and gives you more options to shop around for the cheaper suppliers.

You seems to be worrying about maintinance on gas heating, a service once a year costs less than £100 or you could sign up to a plan for repairs and service for so much a month, total piece of mind and a warm house, I think you are over thinking the costs of running GCH.

carefullycautious

I would also downsize to a warmer property. I can't imagine living alone in such a property

7 degrees :eek:

sniggings

carefullycautious wrote: »

I would also downsize to a warmer property. I can't imagine living alone in such a property

7 degrees :eek:

didn't the OP mention a partner...sorry too lazy to reread all the posts, agree tho a big house for 1-2 people but she could throw great parties

Richie-from-the-Boro

The O/P 'Likestowrite' declared in #1 that """hot water bottles, a 15 tog quilt and woollen blankets I find I'm warm enough in bed, so haven't bothered switching the storage heater on. I switch on a cheap fan heater for 10 minutes when I'm getting dressed."""

The BBC article may or may not be of empirical status, my point was that 'fed up and stressed ' use of it in this context was alarmist with a potential to create unnecessary worry & concern. The O/P as a result of her now deceased husbands preferences has more than adequately managed the dwelling for an undeclared number of years without incident. 'fed up and stressed' used the article totally out of context and without reading the thread and taking into account what the O/P had written.

'fed up and stressed' then went on to use the article totally out of context and without reading the thread and taking into account what I had written. Which in #13 was :

- sleeping in a bed @ 7°C is dangerous
- not a warm bed in a 7°C bedroom

I went on in #13 to say ;

Unless you (1) have a serious heart condition and breathing in cold air causes [pulmonary mechanics] spasms in the lung and airways, making it harder to breathe, or (2) sleepwalk in a 7°C bedroom for an hour or more per night I see nothing other than alarming nonsense in that statement - take advice from your GP - I don't know your general or your pulmonary health status.

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Apologies to the group for the heavy duty use of the BOLD for 'fed up and stressed' who has brought nothing useful to the O/P's inquiring mind, or to the usefulness and practical input of others to help the O/P's dilemma and decision making process. But has merely introduced the burden of uncalled for worry to the process.

Swipe

This week my bedroom has been 6C on waking. Not once have I felt cold in bed due to using 2 duvets. My grandmother lived on her own in a detached house with no central heating, no insulation and single glazed windows until she was 90 years old. As other have said, sitting around at 7C isn't great but being tucked up in a warm bed is completely different.

Richie-from-the-Boro

Swipe wrote: »

This week my bedroom has been 6C on waking. Not once have I felt cold in bed due to using 2 duvets. My grandmother lived on her own in a detached house with no central heating, no insulation and single glazed windows until she was 90 years old. As other have said, sitting around at 7C isn't great but being tucked up in a warm bed is completely different.

- agreed sleeping in a bed @ 7°C is dangerous .. .. a warm bed in a 7°C bedroom is not dangerous
- the best trick in the world, hardly ever mentioned is a duvet under the fitted sheet / valance as well as the one on top

Try that .. .. and you will soon feel the evidence of the suggestion, and quickly change the 18 TOG on the bottom for a summer weight 4.5 TOG. Reducing the leached heat loss from the mattress and reflecting body heat back onto the spine is like crawling back into the warm womb .. .. try it !

Swipe

I already sleep on top of a duvet. No more cold feeling bed since.