HELP am i being conned???

lapat

starrydarkangel wrote: »

their are many reason why they may not be able to fit a meter such as not enough pipe to fit the meter on or a joint supply(in which case if you did have a meter you could be charged for your neighbours useage too).

theres no excuse not to fit a meter they can now fit them direct onto your stop tap.

starrydarkangel

they can now fit them direct onto your stop tap.

That is true they can fit them on the stop tap and most companys prefer to do this....but if the water comes into your property and your appliances use the water but then the pipe continues through the property into the neighbours property then the customer would be charged for more than their own consumption....and theirfore making it pointless unless you want to pay for your neighbours water!

That is why they sometimes wont install a meter

lapat

starrydarkangel wrote: »

That is true they can fit them on the stop tap and most companys prefer to do this....but if the water comes into your property and your appliances use the water but then the pipe continues through the property into the neighbours property then the customer would be charged for more than their own consumption....and theirfore making it pointless unless you want to pay for your neighbours water!

That is why they sometimes wont install a meter

appologies for being stupid here but isnt your internal stop tap your stop tap and your internal stop tap controls your water supply inside your house.

and in 12 years i have never seen a internal stop tap shut off a neighbours property unless there has been an illegal connection.and i can count that on one hand

Cardew

starrydarkangel wrote: »

That is true they can fit them on the stop tap and most companys prefer to do this....but if the water comes into your property and your appliances use the water but then the pipe continues through the property into the neighbours property then the customer would be charged for more than their own consumption....and theirfore making it pointless unless you want to pay for your neighbours water!

That is why they sometimes wont install a meter

You are joking - Right!

Be great if it was like that - and you didn't like your neighbours. No water for them then!

If you lived at the end of a terrace - you could shut off water from all the houses.

On the other hand if you lived 'downstream' from a neighbour who didn't like you!!!!

Sleepy_Panda

Tiger_greeneyes wrote: »

Water companies charge for the amount of water you use, and not on the size of your property - which is why your mum gets charged less than you and your family.

Nope, unmeasured charges are based on the rateable value of your property:

http://www.ofwat.gov.uk/aptrix/ofwat/publish.nsf/Content/how_are_water_charges_calculated

http://www.ofwat.gov.uk/aptrix/ofwat/publish.nsf/Content/info47

And companies don't have to fit meters if it is deemed impracticable or unreasonably expensive to do so, although Ofwat can determine a dispute regarding this:

http://www.ofwat.gov.uk/aptrix/ofwat/publish.nsf/Content/my_water_company_has_said_I_cannot

carmad_3

Sleepy_Panda wrote: »

Nope, unmeasured charges are based on the rateable value of your property:

http://www.ofwat.gov.uk/aptrix/ofwat/publish.nsf/Content/how_are_water_charges_calculated

http://www.ofwat.gov.uk/aptrix/ofwat/publish.nsf/Content/info47

And companies don't have to fit meters if it is deemed impracticable or unreasonably expensive to do so, although Ofwat can determine a dispute regarding this:

http://www.ofwat.gov.uk/aptrix/ofwat/publish.nsf/Content/my_water_company_has_said_I_cannot

I agree.

RV's (rateable values) can also be confusing as even semi-detached or terraced properties can receive different priced unmeasured bills. This is because it is based on the District Valuer's rating prior to the introduction of the Poll Tax, so even if the properties are of the same size, if the District Valuer rated them differently the charges won't be the same.

Cardew

carmad wrote: »

I agree.

RV's (rateable values) can also be confusing as even semi-detached or terraced properties can receive different priced unmeasured bills. This is because it is based on the District Valuer's rating prior to the introduction of the Poll Tax, so even if the properties are of the same size, if the District Valuer rated them differently the charges won't be the same.

This was because the RV was based on the notional rent a property could command, not its value.

Bear in mind that the last 'across the board' valuation in England was in 1972.

Large houses with lots of land, particularly if unmodernised in 1972, were not in demand for rental purposes. However smaller modernised(in 1972) properties could command higher rents.

The large house could now be modernised and be worth several times the smaller property, yet have a lower RV and hence lower unmeasured water bills.