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NOT Parking ticket - Wheelie Bin Fine

Psoleos
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Okay, here is my story, not sure if this is the right forum or not, but couldn't think of where else to post to get some advice.
I am a student living in Nottingham. We put our bins out when they are full (not every week). However, when we do not put our bins out, a man (I am guessing a resident of our road) goes up and down the road putting EVERYONES bins out. When we put our bins out we remember to put them back in however, after the man did it the first time we were given a warning for not bringing our bins in (even though we didn't put them out in the first place!!).
Over the Christmas holidays we left the house, and returned late Saturday evening, there is a bin outside the one next door (no one lives there, abandoned). It's dark, there is no bin outside our house, so not our problem.
Wake up on Sunday morning to a banging on the door, and we are told we are getting a fine for leaving our bin out. The person who puts the bins out when we don't had put our bin outside next doors house (WE WERENT IN AND COULDN'T SEE NUMBER IN DARK). I explain the situation to the officer, and my friend joins me at the door, we BOTH receive an £80 fine each for leaving bins out (other people in house to but thankfully they didn't come to the door). Now, I understand leaving bins out might be a problem for the council, but what is to stop me on a Saturday night going down my whole road putting everyone's bins out, causing everyone to get an £80 fine. It's utterly ridiculous and we have been told by this officer we have no grounds to appeal.
Any advice would be fantastic.
Apologies if this doesn't make much sense and if in wrong section, but quite angry at the moment as we are students and can't really afford an £80 fine each.
Thanks
I am a student living in Nottingham. We put our bins out when they are full (not every week). However, when we do not put our bins out, a man (I am guessing a resident of our road) goes up and down the road putting EVERYONES bins out. When we put our bins out we remember to put them back in however, after the man did it the first time we were given a warning for not bringing our bins in (even though we didn't put them out in the first place!!).
Over the Christmas holidays we left the house, and returned late Saturday evening, there is a bin outside the one next door (no one lives there, abandoned). It's dark, there is no bin outside our house, so not our problem.
Wake up on Sunday morning to a banging on the door, and we are told we are getting a fine for leaving our bin out. The person who puts the bins out when we don't had put our bin outside next doors house (WE WERENT IN AND COULDN'T SEE NUMBER IN DARK). I explain the situation to the officer, and my friend joins me at the door, we BOTH receive an £80 fine each for leaving bins out (other people in house to but thankfully they didn't come to the door). Now, I understand leaving bins out might be a problem for the council, but what is to stop me on a Saturday night going down my whole road putting everyone's bins out, causing everyone to get an £80 fine. It's utterly ridiculous and we have been told by this officer we have no grounds to appeal.
Any advice would be fantastic.
Apologies if this doesn't make much sense and if in wrong section, but quite angry at the moment as we are students and can't really afford an £80 fine each.
Thanks
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That's terrible, are you able to lock your bin away or padlock it to something to stop him putting it out in future.
Also can you take the number off the binThrifty Till 50 Then Spend Till the End
You can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time but you can never please all of the people all of the time0 -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21012393
Just as this comes out as well!
Going to speak to him next time we see him doing it and ask him to stop. It's painted on so can't really take the number off.0 -
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Yeah, I just saw it! Don't think it really helps me though!0 -
I suppose it's a fixed penalty notice yes ? The only appeal is to the magistrates court in that case, if you go there and fail this could go up hugely. I would go to whoever issued this and see if it can be sorted informally. Not sure where it stands issuing 2 notices for the same thing thoughWhen posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
We don't need the following to help you.
Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
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So the man who put your bin out wasn't asked to do it? He just goes up and down the street putting other peoples bins out? It takes all sorts i guess:) If he's done it to yo maybe he has to other people as well, could you try knocking on a few other people on the street and maybe get together as a group and address a letter to the council asking them to remove the fines? If you've been fined unfairly i wonder if others on the street have also.0
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So the man who put your bin out wasn't asked to do it? He just goes up and down the street putting other peoples bins out? It takes all sorts i guess:) If he's done it to yo maybe he has to other people as well, could you try knocking on a few other people on the street and maybe get together as a group and address a letter to the council asking them to remove the fines? If you've been fined unfairly i wonder if others on the street have also.
Will do! He had a stack of fines in his hand, so I am pretty sure will be able to find some people.0 -
I suppose it's a fixed penalty notice yes ? The only appeal is to the magistrates court in that case, if you go there and fail this could go up hugely. I would go to whoever issued this and see if it can be sorted informally. Not sure where it stands issuing 2 notices for the same thing though
He said we might be able to get it down to 1 notice if we phone the council, but that is still not good enough in my opinion.
Apparently it's not the putting out, it's the taking in, and as we were in the house before he fined us, it is our fault.0 -
He said we might be able to get it down to 1 notice if we phone the council, but that is still not good enough in my opinion.
Apparently it's not the putting out, it's the taking in, and as we were in the house before he fined us, it is our fault.
You need to try and do this with the council, if you want to do a formal appeal its with the magistrates court for fixed penalty notices (it is one yes ? ) if you fail there it could cost hundreds for each one. And your friend would need to do the same. I still don't know about issuing both one though.When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
We don't need the following to help you.
Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
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Why did you give them your name ?Be happy...;)0
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