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John Lewis......should be allowed :)
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The notion of the high street is becoming outdated because people simply flock to these huge out of town retail centres instead. I guess its just a change of habit by customers. I remember my mum and day would have went to say, Banbridge for a 'walk around' of a saturday afternoon. That doesnt really happen anymore.
If prospective customers arent passing your front door then no amount of 'change' will keep you in business.
My sentiments entirely.
Belfast city centre is a hassle from a parking point of view at the best of times - and that is before you factor in car parking charges. I would rather go to an out of town shopping centre with free parking and much the same shops - e.g. abbeycentre springs to mind.0 -
Yes, cheers for the advice. I always research any purchase thoroughly and very rarely will you find something cheaper from one of the local electronic suppliers.
I would bet that for any given electonic item I would be able to find the same or better for cheaper online. And you usually can get free delivery from most of the big boys too.
I find it is always cheaper online - for instance a TV we were looking at recently was £50 cheaper online for exactly the same model than the cheapest NI electrical shop. What would I rather do - buy local or save £50 (a high % of the product price) and buy online?
Also a lot of the online retailers are very good at delivery now - amazon springs to mind with free deiivery which is always very quick.0 -
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very rarely will you find anything cheap in jlYes, cheers for the advice. I always research any purchase thoroughly and very rarely will you find something cheaper from one of the local electronic suppliers.
I would bet that for any given electonic item I would be able to find the same or better for cheaper online. And you usually can get free delivery from most of the big boys too.
I have boldenised a part of my statement which you have quoted. I am saying that you can purchase items cheaper than what is on offer in local electronic retailers. I'm not saying you'll find the bargain of the century in John Lewis.0 -
Shops are closing all over America as a result of the global recession. This has nothing to do with the viability of out-of-town shopping centres as a concept.
Unfortunately we live in a real world, not a conceptual one. Im sure the people who built apartment blocks all over Belfast thought it was a great concept as well.
You used failing examples of a failing model to back up your point. Thats my point.
Out of town centres have killed off city centres globally in terms of the same shops, some city centres have evolved into niche areas or tourist rich areas and are thriving.
The conditions that encouraged people to move to out of town are now encouraging more internet use and so the out of towns are now dying as well. Something we need to take note of. Like the apartment blocks we dont want more unfinished out of town, partially used out of town, or out of town centres filled with dollaramas selling bowls of palm oil, sugar, salt derivatives parcelled up as generic fast food.0 -
To suggest that a local butcher couldn't get caught up with the same fiasco regarding meat from suppliers is a bit naive.
No its not. I was merely demonstrating the quality of meat you are eating from the likes of Tescos.
I said I wouldn't pay crazy local prices. I get most of my electronics from online retailers.
And others have pointed out that you may well be able to buy them locally for similar prices from local traders.
In the event that you do find a bargain in PC World or the like then it's VERY easy to just say no to all the offered add ons.
True, but most people get sucked in.
Again, its all entirely up to you. Just opening your eyes to the implications of your actions.0 -
Unfortunately we live in a real world, not a conceptual one. Im sure the people who built apartment blocks all over Belfast thought it was a great concept as well.
You used failing examples of a failing model to back up your point. Thats my point.
Out of town centres have killed off city centres globally in terms of the same shops, some city centres have evolved into niche areas or tourist rich areas and are thriving.
The conditions that encouraged people to move to out of town are now encouraging more internet use and so the out of towns are now dying as well. Something we need to take note of. Like the apartment blocks we dont want more unfinished out of town, partially used out of town, or out of town centres filled with dollaramas selling bowls of palm oil, sugar, salt derivatives parcelled up as generic fast food.
The recession killed off many businesses in many town centres. As it did in the big out-of-town complexes. Therefore it had nothing to do with their location, they failed because of the economic climate. That is hardly the most compelling argument in favour of town centre shopping versus out-of-town shopping.0 -
No its not. I was merely demonstrating the quality of meat you are eating from the likes of Tescos.
That's a little unfair. The meat you are referring to was found in Everyday Value frozen burgers.
The meat on their fresh meat counter is often sourced from the same suppliers as the local butchers'.0 -
That is hardly the most compelling argument in favour of town centre shopping versus out-of-town shopping.
I wasnt making an argument for town centre versus out of town. I was just pointing out that your use of the US as a good example was a false one.
As I pointed out, they are both failing models, so why build any more and end up like the us with both empty town centres and empty out of town centres, when a different forward approach is needed.
Referring to a business model that is failing in order to back up your point about a business model that is failing is a bit of a nonsense.0 -
Right, to take a back step away from this debate can we all at least agree on one thing?
John Lewis make good TV adverts.0
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