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Right to have gas central heating

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  • I read somewhere that a freeholder can withhold their consent to allow gas supply but their decision must be reasonable.
    What if someone finds the freeholder's decision unreasonable?
    Let's assume that the installation meets all the safety and building regulations.
  • southcoastrgi
    southcoastrgi Posts: 6,298 Forumite
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    it's doesn't matter if the block is run by a management co, when you buy a flat you agree to all their t&c's if they say no then it's no even if the whole block wants gas, owning a flat is nothing like owning a house you can't just do what you want
    I'm only here while I wait for Corrie to start.

    You get no BS from me & if I think you are wrong I WILL tell you.
  • This is a solicitor's response to a similar question to mine:

    The gas company has a duty under s.10 Gas Act 1986 to provide a connection to the mains gas supply for you. Equally they have powers to lay pipes as necessary to connect you to fulfill this obligation regardless of what the landlord may think about this.
    In other words if you ask the gas company to connect you to the network they have a duty to fulfil this request providing you are within 23 meters of a supply line and equally they can then lay a pipe as they think necessary to do so. The landlord cannot prevent them.
    The landlord may or may not be able to object to you laying a pipe in a particular way or location but they cannot prevent the gas company from doing so.

    According to the above I can have gas supply installed with or without landlord's consent. Unfortunately it doesn't say anything about gas central heating installation.
  • t0rt0ise
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    If you've got a gas supply which you will have why would you think you can't install heating. You can do what you like inside your own flat can't you?
  • The problem would be the exhaust flue which would stick out of the outside wall.
  • southcoastrgi
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    t0rt0ise wrote: »
    You can do what you like inside your own flat can't you?

    NO YOU CAN'T,

    OP your letter refers to having gas supplied to a meter box which in the case of a block of flats will be a ground meter box, as your letter points out the landlord can't prevent this, HOWEVER from the meter into your property is yours/landlords/management co responsability & if they say no then all you have is a supply to a meter box with either a capped supply or a meter you are paying a standing charge for with no gas pipework going into your property
    I'm only here while I wait for Corrie to start.

    You get no BS from me & if I think you are wrong I WILL tell you.
  • As stated, how many floors up are you ?, and is the entry more than 23 meters from the national grid street supply, and can / will the building be able to have all the individual households meters now and in the future installed at no more than 3 meters hight ? - and then your real problems start. If I for one lived in that block I would raise a legal objection and actively encourage all others to do so, I would join with the landlord, fire authority and local authoruty in putting you into an expensive never ending litigation process.
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  • penrhyn
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    With most leasehold properties there will be a master insurance policy covering the building, as a leaseholder you will contribute to that with your annual ground rent and maintenance charges. Putting in a gas supply would invalidate the policy, I'd suggest you read the terms of your lease. The next thing you may want is a Sky dish which may also be a no no.
    That gum you like is coming back in style.
  • budgetdiyer
    budgetdiyer Posts: 263 Forumite
    edited 9 January 2013 at 9:15PM
    penrhyn wrote: »
    With most leasehold properties there will be a master insurance policy covering the building, as a leaseholder you will contribute to that with your annual ground rent and maintenance charges. Putting in a gas supply would invalidate the policy, I'd suggest you read the terms of your lease.

    I act as managing agent for a few blocks of flats and for all the insurance policies i have never been asked by the insurers whether the flats have gas connected, nor have i ever seen such information on any proposal forms i've completed in relation to these policies.

    Why buy a flat with electric heating and no gas connection if you want a flat with gas central heating? I don't think i'd want to buy a flat and then start going about upsetting the management company and other residents with requests like this!

    If you are really set on the flat and want central heating, why not look into having an electric central heating boiler, the systems available look just like gas central heating (ie wet radiators) but have an electric boiler. Provided the flat is well insulated they are normally pretty cheap to run too.
  • spiro wrote: »
    You have no right in law to GSH. You also need to check regs as I dont know of any flats with gas due to risk of explosions.

    my MIL has gas ch in a flat
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