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Parked in residents bay and standing by car

therebbe
therebbe Posts: 6 Forumite
in Parking tickets, fines & parking
My wife was parked in a residents bay (when she was allowed) and was standing behind the car talking to someone.

As a result, she ended up being parked after the permitted time.

The warden who gave her a ticket admitted that he hadn't seen her as he hadn't photographed the rear of the car.

He told her to appeal and also made a note on his computer.

Barnet have now rejected the appeal saying she shouldn't have been parked there.

Are there any grounds to appeal again?
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  • peter_the_piper
    peter_the_piper Posts: 30,269 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Pepipoo.com is the place for you. They have a dedicated section for council parkin so gather copies of all evidence, signs, car, lines etc as well as BOTH sides of all correspondence and pcn/nto. Use tinypic to host the pics and link to the url for messageboards on there.
    I'd rather be an Optimist and be proved wrong than a Pessimist and be proved right.
  • TonyMMM
    TonyMMM Posts: 3,449 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    therebbe wrote: »
    As a result, she ended up being parked after the permitted time.

    What grounds do you think there could be ?

    Standing near a car doesn't stop it being "parked" and although it appears that the warden could have been a bit more generous, she seems (by her own admission) to have committed the offence.
  • therebbe
    therebbe Posts: 6 Forumite
    The warden seemed to think there were grounds for an appeal.

    a. he admitted no photographing the rear of the car

    b. He told my wife to appeal and made a note on his little computer.

    I don't know all the laws of giving out PCN top know whether point a is valid.

    I've tried to find the requirements but of course councils don't want you knowing.
  • Orford
    Orford Posts: 2,199 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    a. Taking photos is not a statutory requirement
    b. It's always worth appealing.

    What is the observation time from/to on the PCN?
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    TonyMMM wrote: »
    What grounds do you think there could be ?

    Standing near a car doesn't stop it being "parked" and although it appears that the warden could have been a bit more generous, she seems (by her own admission) to have committed the offence.

    There are many appeal points not just the ones that the OP says, there could be problems with TRO, the ticket itself, the signs , the bays or myriad of other things.

    This is a money saving site, we are here to offer advice on doing that, so it would be constructive if you bared that in mind.

    OP as been advised pop over to https://www.pepipoo.com where they will give advice
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • Orford
    Orford Posts: 2,199 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    You say you were in resident bay. Was that with a visitor permit or a P&D ticket?
  • therebbe
    therebbe Posts: 6 Forumite
    Orford wrote: »
    You say you were in resident bay. Was that with a visitor permit or a P&D ticket?

    Nothing. Had my wife been parked there and been shopping we would admit she liable.

    In this case, the warden gave us hope.
  • spacey2012
    spacey2012 Posts: 5,836 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Who exactly gave you the ticket.
    Find out.
    It will say somewhere on it.
    Be happy...;)
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    Barnet it's in the first post
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • Orford
    Orford Posts: 2,199 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    What is the contravention as on the PCN?
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