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Held to Ransom

Hi All,

Looking for advice on an annoying problem.
I recently purchased a 10 plate Nissan car off a private buyer, at the time of purchase he said he had no second key. He was not forthcoming as to what happened to it but he said he never had it. I purchased the car and went on my way. At this time I had no idea these types of keys cost sooo much!

Two days later he phoned me up and said unbeknownst to him his son had purchased a key from Nissan and that he would be willing to let me have for £180 - £40 off the purchase price from Nissan.

I told him that the car was purchased in good faith and that if there is a second key then it rightfully belongs to me and it is unreasonable for him to demand payment.

I feel I am being held to ransom on this matter, but I have told the seller I would rather pay Nissan £220 than give him 1p as the situation feels like I am being ripped off. :mad:

I have contacted Nissan and, indeed, these keys do have a ridiculous purchase price around £220 because they have to be "programmed" - the process of which, apparently, takes all of two minutes.

Anyway, I still feel somewhat uneasy as there is someone out there who has keys to my car.

Any advice will be gratefully appreciated.

Thanks in advance
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  • Hackman_2
    Hackman_2 Posts: 197 Forumite
    Thing is you purchased the car and accepted it with one ky.
  • jobdone1
    jobdone1 Posts: 841 Forumite
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    If it was me i would have offered £150 for the key for my own piece of mind, They may well not be able to drive it as it is not programmed but i'm sure they will still be able to enter the car. That way i know the car is secure and also saved myself £70 in the process albeit the programming.
  • Hackman wrote: »
    Thing is you purchased the car and accepted it with one ky.

    The thing is he lied to me - I do not believe his son purchased a second key, I am sure they always had it - it is just a way of extorting extra money.
  • jobdone1
    jobdone1 Posts: 841 Forumite
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    From experience to purchase a second key from a main dealer you have to prove you are the owner of that car with evidence such as log book etc Might be worth giving the local garage main dealer in the town that you purchased the car to check their data base to see if they have sold a second key for that car they must have records of some sort for security reason. As i have said i am sure you have to prove ownership or i could ring up and get a key for your car if you get where i am coming from.
  • oliverr
    oliverr Posts: 418 Forumite
    Hm, a difficult one. Only you know the guy you brought the car from - did he seem the trustworthy type, maybe he genuinely didn't have the 2nd key (though somehow I doubt this...)

    I don't think this guy is going to get into your car though, does he know where you live anyway? It depends on the guy really, but if you need a 2nd key I would probably ring Nissan.
  • colin79666
    colin79666 Posts: 1,359 Forumite
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    The thing is he lied to me - I do not believe his son purchased a second key, I am sure they always had it - it is just a way of extorting extra money.

    As rubbish as it is you can either negotiate with the seller or go to Nissan and get a new key and block their key from starting it (it could still open the door).

    It sounds really poor that they are asking for more money though, after all it isn't work a bean for any other car!
  • victor2
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    Ask the dealer if reprogramming will disable any other existing key fobs not reprogrammed. If that is the case, consider looking at the instructions here...
    http://www.keyfobrepair.co.uk/Key_fob_Resynchronizing_instructions..htm
    Of course if it doesn't work with the only key you've got, then you could be in a mess. Maybe your Nissan dealer will reprogramme your existing key for a small amount, if it does indeed disable the "spare" key you don't have. At least then you'll be happy the seller can't steal the car.

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  • custardy
    custardy Posts: 38,365 Forumite
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    I would offer the guy £50
    otherwise he is left with a key of little use to him
    £50 is better than nothing
    If you are willing and able to pay Nissan,then I would hold fast
  • jobdone1
    jobdone1 Posts: 841 Forumite
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    custardy wrote: »
    I would offer the guy £50
    otherwise he is left with a key of little use to him
    £50 is better than nothing
    If you are willing and able to pay Nissan,then I would hold fast

    Need some training from you lol, Beats my offer of £150 should always listen to your parents when young start low pay less.:D
  • bluesnake
    bluesnake Posts: 1,460 Forumite
    Another point is that just say no to the second key, and remind him that if the car ever goes missing or broken in to that he will be the first suspect.

    There is bit if a jump between extorting cash for a key, and breaking in into someone car.

    Auto locksmith may be much cheaper than Nissan
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