Child Benefit Question

Gentile

emsywoo123 wrote: »

Thread reported.

Poor OP has had to delete his/her post.

Whoever this "gentile" is (never a less inappropriate username!) allow me to introduce you to Soapn........unless you have already met :rotfl:

If OP deleted her post it had nothing to do with me. All I did was to point out how greedy we have become as a nation.

On the one hand we are saying cut benefits because the country cannot afford it. So they do what they think is the right approach, start cutting from the top from people who can live without benefits. What do we find? Suddenly these"top earners" are trying to manipulate the system to get benefits. Hypocrites ! How can we expect the people reliant on benefits for their survival to shut up when the benefit tap is turned off then ?

waccamole

Gentile wrote: »

What is the need to claim benefits ( however small the amount ) when you are earning in excess of 60K ? I berate a lot in here for people assuming they are entitled to benefits but if someone who is considered high earner has this attitude what can we expect from the lowest paid ?

That is the misconception at the centre of this argument. Have a look at this, enter £3200 (approx net pay for someone on £60K) for a two adult household with three children and you'll see why...

http://www.ifs.org.uk/wheredoyoufitin/

One person on £60K may be a 'high earner' but it's not a high income for a family of five.

Interesting I thought.

Gentile

HappyMJ wrote: »

Individual income...yes....family income no it's not high.

A family with 4 children not working at all and £300 a week housing benefit (London as that is a fairly easy place to earn £60,000 and it's the same rate as a mortgage based on £60,000 of earnings) would get £37,300 in benefits including child tax credits and child benefit and an income based benefit such as income based jobseekers allowance and housing and council tax benefit (assuming £1,500 a year). Assuming again about £2,600 a year in non cash benefits such as free school meals, free prescriptions, an annual rebate on gas/electric and water bills means they are earning about the same as somone taking home £39,900...

Compare that to the working family with the main and only earner earning £60,000 and taking home £41,600 a year....and they have to pay to get to/from work which I'm sure would cost more than £1,700 per year more than sitting at home and watching telly.

It pays to stay at home and not work.

If you call them high then I call any family on benefits also high earning as well so therefore pretty much anyone with children is high earning even if they don't work at all.

Those figures are true and can be verified using the"Entitled" calculator found online,which is being massively abused by people fiddling around with various permutations and combinations and figuring out which combo gives them the most benefits.