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Current a level students won't get a pension till 77... Lets cut boomers pensions NOW

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  • thorsoak
    thorsoak Posts: 7,166 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    George. Some times when people get caught up in themselves and start putting the world to rights on internet forums, it can be easy to lose sight of how one comes across.

    You are basically coming across as a nasty, arrogant, ranting man, who seems to have beef with everyone who doesn't fit your extraordinarily narrow definition of respectability.

    You hate young people, you hate people getting married, you hate people less well off than you, you hate anyone who comments on the less well off as left wing.

    Do you think your life might be a bit happier if you chilled out a bit?

    Just saying is all.

    Substitue "old people" for "young people" - and the words pot and kettle come to mind!
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    kabayiri wrote: »

    Villain or player of the system (or both) : you decide. The more the state goes after your money, the more things will shift to the black economy.

    Not for me to judge but I agree that more people will "protect" what they can.

    With the degree of HPI that was seen I guess assets have become a bigger target to go after, in a lot of cases, that are more difficult to squirrel.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    Villain, because that's evasion not avoidance, and anyone doing that is simply stealing from their fellow citizens. Can never be justified, even though all sorts of people are apparently at it who are supposed to be setting an example to the rest of us.

    A villain indeed. A villain who knew how to work the system.

    Just like those who hide money in Swiss accounts.

    I suspect when you add it all up, the loss to the state is massive. No wonder we can't afford pension provision.
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    Villain, because that's evasion not avoidance, and anyone doing that is simply stealing from their fellow citizens. Can never be justified, even though all sorts of people are apparently at it who are supposed to be setting an example to the rest of us.

    It would be interesting to know how many people consider it and harbour thoughts even if they don't follow through. I would expect it to be few who don't.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • GeorgeHowell
    GeorgeHowell Posts: 2,739 Forumite
    It would be interesting to know how many people consider it and harbour thoughts even if they don't follow through. I would expect it to be few who don't.

    I am sure many, if not most, people harbour all sorts of wrong and unsavoury thoughts in a variety of areas, which they not proud of and would not want revealed. There is no crime in thinking (though that may come, the way we are going), only in the actuality. Nobody can be exonerated in the least from committing any crime just because someone else may have been tempted, but didn't do it.
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    posh*spice wrote: »
    It's not all good news for boomers



    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20957314

    It's all right, nearly all of them are on Final Salary pensions :)
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    I am sure many, if not most, people harbour all sorts of wrong and unsavoury thoughts in a variety of areas, which they not proud of and would not want revealed. There is no crime in thinking (though that may come, the way we are going), only in the actuality. Nobody can be exonerated in the least from committing any crime just because someone else may have been tempted, but didn't do it.

    Does that include listing your wife as say Company Secretary (with a wage) when they don't actually do any work to substantiate that? Or indeed receiving (or paying) cash in hand?
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • GeorgeHowell
    GeorgeHowell Posts: 2,739 Forumite
    StevieJ wrote: »
    Does that include listing your wife as say Company Secretary (with a wage) when they don't actually do any work to substantiate that? Or indeed receiving (or paying) cash in hand?

    Of course, that is tax evasion - a crime.
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
  • PaulF81
    PaulF81 Posts: 1,727 Forumite
    Of course, that is tax evasion - a crime.

    not when you are an mp and do it - it seems.
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    5m 30s in...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01px5rf/This_Week_10_01_2013/

    Brilliant! Janet Street Porter on "Don't you dare touch my benefits".

    She probably knocked the pensioner cause back a few notches, a good job there was a sensible balancing act from the other two, what a horrible women icon9.gif Was she the one who was having a go at depressives previously?
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
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