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think tank thinks child benefit change is a farce

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  • chewmylegoff
    chewmylegoff Posts: 11,466 Forumite
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    Give it up TWH, you're not getting your benefits (that you don't need and never did need) back.

    Life isn't fair. Deal with it and change the record.
  • coastline
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    Call it a farce...call it badly managed...call it what you want ???
    The government introduced a plan then went back to the drawing board within a day of the media ripping it to shreads..
    We now have a staggered set of rules for a benefit...just when they wanted a straight forward cut.
    It hardly fits in with the idea of simplifying government rules and regulations and too much red tape..
  • we'll get them back
  • and they are not a benefit, they are a rebate of a small proportion of the vast amount of tax I pay.
  • and they are not a benefit, they are a rebate of a small proportion of the vast amount of tax I pay.

    The problem with changing any of these schemes is that they would entail creating thousands of much-needed jobs! (All that research, consultation,green papers,white papers,debates, and of course the paperwork and means-testing by all the new advisors that would have to be hired! Oh wait....
  • BobQ
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    never has their been a bigger own goal scored by a govt than this crazy mess.

    what a cretin that osbourne is.

    I think the 50p pension rise and the Poll Tax were worse!
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • michaels
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    I must be the only one who thinks that a tax where people would directly relate what their council did to how much they paid for it (like most things in life) was a better system than one in which a majority who pay nothing but receive services can vote to increase the tax paid by the minority.
    I think....
  • BobQ
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    Yes it is a farce.

    On t'radio they were saying the marginal tax rate for those losing benefit, between 50 - 60K was 70%+:eek:

    Was this the first poorly thought through change?

    The fact they didn't have the guts to say "whoops" our error tells you even more.

    Its funny when such marginality issues affect those on modest incomes, and seem unfair, it never hits the headlines. But affect those on £50-60K unfairly there is an outcry.
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • BobQ
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    and they are not a benefit, they are a rebate of a small proportion of the vast amount of tax I pay.

    Everyone who pays tax can say that something they receive is a rebate. You go into hospital and you get a rebate, your child goes to school its a tax rebate etc.
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • BobQ wrote: »
    I think the 50p pension rise and the Poll Tax were worse!

    They just didn't think it rhrough - how child benefoit cuts would hurt their very core voters! That does seem like idocy I must admit - they must be kicking themselves for such a blunder - all the while Dave was trying to attract women to the Cons side .... oh dear oh dear ... simply making their juggling even harder! Childcare fees, aging rellies, holding down a job, petrol costs to work, train fare rises.... no wonder Mums have had enough of the Cons! Come back Yvette... we know you understand!
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