Howdens Kitchen - Glendevon Cream

mani5ha

Hi guys,

I'm new to the forum and i'm having a new kitchen built, I wanted to know if any of you more experienced folk were able to see if this quote was fair? Also, wanted to check if there's anything in there that we don't really need.

I have already decided that i won't be using the Howdens appliances so they can be ignored.

The quote is for the Glendevon Cream

Many thanks in advance
Mini

1 GLR5851 Glr Wh Nh 300 CC Curved Base End 82.94 200.00
1 GLR5146 Glr Wh Nh 600mm Cush/Cl 3 Draw 89.94 100.00 F
1 HYH8133 Dlx 600 Cutlery Tray 60.00 10.80
1 GLR5600 Glr Wh Nh 600 Buoh Base 70.00 81.30 F
1 GLR5211 Glr Wh Nh 400 CC HL Base 70.00 117.00 F
1 GLR5335 Glr Wh Nh 800 CC HL Cnr Base 70.00 155.40 F
1 RKC0600 Base Blanking Panel 800/1000 60.00 6.64 F
1 GLR5256 Glr Wh Nh 900 Cc Hl Base 70.00 178.50 F
1 GLR5904 Glr Nh 600 HL App Door 70.00 75.30 F
1 GLR5851 Glr Wh Nh 300 CC Curved Base End 82.94 200.00
2 GLR5584 Glr Wh Nh 300 CC Larder Twr 70.00 432.60 F
2 GLR5221 Glr Wh Nh 500 CC HL Base 70.00 249.00 F
1 GLR5198 Glr Wh Nh 1000 3 Drawer Base 70.00 418.20 F
1 HYH8197 Dlx 1000 Cutlery Tray 60.00 22.00
4 GLR5421 Glr Wh Nh 500 Cc Fh Wall 70.00 372.00 F
1 GLR5451 Glr Wh Nh 1000 Cc Dbl Fh Wall 70.00 174.90 F
1 GLR5431 Glr Wh Nh 600 Ccfh Wall 70.00 113.10 F
1 GLR5861 Glr Wh Nh Cu.Cl Curved Fh Wall Unit 70.00 316.20
2 GLR5987 Glr Cur Cab Cornice/Pelmet Rtn Sq 70.00 72.00
3 GLR5922 Glr Plastic Continuous Plinth 70.00 155.70 F
2 GLR5929 Glr Plastic Curved Plinth Return 85.00 36.00 F
2 GLR5930 Glr Base Decor End 70.00 96.60 F
3 GLR5941 Glr Wh Nh Fh Wall Decor End - 752mm 70.00 117.00 F
6 GLR5950 Glr 2130 Tower Decor End 70.00 750.60 F
5 GLR5911 Glr Nh Sqr Profile Cornice/ Pelmet 70.00 186.00 F
1 RKC0480 110 Degree Hinge Pack 60.00 2.60
1 HKC0055 Soft Close Kitchen Hinge Pack. 60.00 6.80
1 SNK5122 Lamona Rutland 1.0Rev Cw Waste 60.00 113.60
1 PLU5000 Sgl Bowl Dlx Plumb Kit/Twin App 60.00 15.60
1 TAP3521 Garda Swan Neck Tap 60.00 158.40
3 WKP2860 American Pecan Sq Edge 3m 616 38 60.00 362.40 F
1 WOR9039 Brown jointing compound 60.00 6.44
2 WKP2895 American Pecan 5m Edging Strip 59.99 46.40
3 GIR0026 Zip Bolt 59.93 7.20
1 ACK1295 800mm Full Extension RH Corner Unit 75.00 240.25
1 APL2806 Flexible 125mm ducting kit 60.00 18.00
1 LAM1160 Lamona 4 Burner Proff Gas Hob S/S 77.32 100.00
1 LAM8601 Lamona 60cm Dishwasher 94.42 50.00
28 HKB1255 Sq Bar Handle 94.99 9.80
1 ZZD39 Delivery 0.00 70.00
1 HJS9787 Kitchen Installation Manual August 0.00 0.00
1 GLR5920 Glr Continuous Plinth 85.00 25.95 F
1 LAM3401 Lamona S/S Single Fan Oven 71.77 175.00
1 SKD4254 G/devon Cream 600 Tall Door 70.00 72.00 F
1 HJA2420 Lamona S/s Glass 60cm Chimney Extr 77.22 200

The end figures are the final price, the middle figure i.e in the above 77.22 is I beleive the % discount

the final price comes in at 7580.74!

The discounts have ranged from 60 - nearly 95% in some cases as far as I can tell

cattie

Not sure about the quote but if the discounts have come in at the price range you mention, then that's pretty normal in my experience with Howden's.

Will be having a Glendevon quote myself in the next couple of weeks along with a Magnet Studio quote (have had this range in the past) and will see how they compare.

Regarding your kitchen, as well as sourcing your own appliances, which I see you are going to do, source your own sink and tap and door handles too. This is what I tend to do & you can save loads by doing this. You should be able to get the same handles for near enough half price if you look on ebay.

t2p32

looking at the quote + total (sale prices)
you could prob source yourself a slab lacquered gloss kitchen for that quote with a cream carcass (rather than the white your offered) with lacquerd plinths (not plastic)
Also in my experience quoting off howden designs they do tend to add more end panels than required.
but this hard to tell off a list and not a plan

adamg

no thats a terrible price and discounts on the units. They have over discounted the appliances as they cant sell them any higher as they are rubbish

kamzy

Having had a quote from Howdens recently on the same kitchen, although different units mainly, for a house i'm refurbishing to sell on. They gave the old 70-75% trade discount but everyone can get that to be fair. I ended up going to IKEA and buying it from there, I was quoted £4025.57 from Howdens inc the cheapest appliance pack of £100 for oven/hood/hob but i'd never put that in a house. I paid 1493.00 at IKEA without appliances.

A few things my quote does have the same as yours and the prices...INCLUDING DISCOUNT...

TAP3521 GARDA SWAN NECK TAP £50.00, I got 87.37% disc.
GLR5431 600 Wall £113.10 same price as you.
GLR5600 600 Base Unit £81.30 same price as you.
GLR5421 500 Wall £93.00 same price as you.

nickcc

Try Wickes for a quote, you may be pleasantly surprised. I found Howdens, who's kitchens MFI supplied, quite expensive. I tried them all and ended up with Wickes who were considerably cheaper than their competitors. Tesco and Magnet made you're eyes water and B&Q were cheap and nasty. I have no interest in Wickes apart from buying their products.

DHLdriver

You may wish to read this before placing any orders with Howdens at the moment

From the Unite website

"Customers of the kitchen maker Howdens Joinery could face disruption to the delivery of their bespoke kitchens as a potential dispute is brewing because hardworking drivers face the sack.

Unite, Britain's biggest union, is preparing an industrial action ballot for DHL workers operating the Howdens Joinery contract, in a dispute over the company's decision to relocate the Widnes (Merseyside) transport operation to Howden in East Yorkshire with the loss of 64 jobs.

No sound or tangible business rationale has been offered for the relocation of Howdens’ transport operation. Unite believes the company's decision is an attack on the strongly unionised workers by an anti-union employer.

Unite regional officer Neil Clarke said: "The Widnes transport operation is the most heavily used in Howdens' entire network but the company has failed to give the union any meaningful reason for the proposed shift. We believe this is a blatant attack on a strongly unionised workforce.

"Unite is determined to protect its members' jobs and, if necessary, we will fight the decision but we still remain committed to trying to resolve this issue through meaningful dialogue. We believe that both Howdens and DHL have a moral duty to support and protect the long serving and loyal workforce."

On Thursday 3 January 2013 DHL informed employees working at the Widnes transport operation for the Howdens Joinery contract that Howdens is proposing to terminate its transport operations at Widnes on 4 February 2013 and relocate to a transport hub in Howden (North East) that is not yet in existence. "

keystone

DHLDriver. Thats three times now. You've made your point and any more will be reported as trolling. I fail to see why your own dispute should be used as a weapon to damage the manufacturers business nor mine for that matter should a client of mine really rather fancy a Howdens kitchen.

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Its probably very simple. In the current economic climate costs are too high, and margins are under pressure. Your employer can't or won't play ball on costs because of restrictive working practices and militancy of a highly unionised workforce. Result manufacturer says stiuff it - I'll make other arrangements. The fault is entirely that of your inflexible and intransigent union and you think its OK to bring this dispute here. Well only up to a point.

Sorry if that appears anti you. It isn't. Everyone is struggling at present and you have no right to tell me and my clients where to spend our money. Your lot need to accept that there is pain to be shared rather than chucking toys out of the pram.

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Cheers

1AM

Have you bought this kitchen yet?

The discounts on a few items is pretty drastic especially the dishwasher.

However the discount on the units and panels is not. You can get them to go a lot cheaper than that.

They can do all of the furniture at 80% off and still be making a very good profit margin.
Be careful that this quote they have given you is not an arrangement between the builder and Howdens, where he is actually invoiced a price much lower than they are quoting you when he actually comes to buy it.

There are old posts on this site showing were a builder has an arrangement for the client to pay Howdens £6000 into his account for a kitchen they invoice him at £4000 and he gets the difference back from Howdens or it stays on his account as a credit.

Let the buyer beware

mani5ha

Hiya, Just to let you know I did buy the howdens kitchen, but on advise from here I sourced taps, electrical equipment, sink and dishwasher myself (even though sometimes more expensive i felt the quality would be better).

I am not sure if the builder got a cut of it all. He seems really trustworthy and is a family friend. However, you never know... he seemed annoyed if I didn't go for a Howdens kitchen, because he said with Howdens he has a relationship whereby if things are not quite right he can return them quite easily. Hmm.

somethingcorporate

hmm indeed.