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Removal of RHT meter and E-on

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blueperil
blueperil Posts: 25 Forumite
Hi All,
I have read a lot of threads on the site regarding RHT meters but haven't seen a conclusive answer in how to merge the feeds into one meter.

On a lot of the threads an e-on rep claims RHT meters and tariffs are sometimes better for the user, not in my case, I'm several hundred pounds a year worse off.

It's also been claimed I can move to whichever supplier I like, I don't feel like this is true either as no one else will supply me with the current set up.

The RHT meter supplies my underfloor heating, which is used occasionally but not enough to warrant staying on a RHT tarriff.

What I'd like to know is can I move the undefloor heating over to the standard meter and then be able to choose a single meter tarriff. I understand the RHT meter controls the heating to some degree, but surely a switch of some kind could be put in, having the added benefit of me be able to have the heating on when I want and not in the hours when I least use it.

I see quotes of £52 for a new meter, is this necessary as I already have a standard meter don't I or would both meters have to be replaced with a new one?

Thanks.
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  • Wywth
    Wywth Posts: 5,079 Forumite
    edited 4 January 2013 at 3:17PM
    blueperil wrote: »
    Hi All,
    I have read a lot of threads on the site regarding RHT meters but haven't seen a conclusive answer in how to merge the feeds into one meter.

    On a lot of the threads an e-on rep claims RHT meters and tariffs are sometimes better for the user, not in my case, I'm several hundred pounds a year worse off.

    It's also been claimed I can move to whichever supplier I like, I don't feel like this is true either as no one else will supply me with the current set up.

    The RHT meter supplies my underfloor heating, which is used occasionally but not enough to warrant staying on a RHT tarriff.

    What I'd like to know is can I move the undefloor heating over to the standard meter and then be able to choose a single meter tarriff. I understand the RHT meter controls the heating to some degree, but surely a switch of some kind could be put in, having the added benefit of me be able to have the heating on when I want and not in the hours when I least use it.

    I see quotes of £52 for a new meter, is this necessary as I already have a standard meter don't I or would both meters have to be replaced with a new one?

    Thanks.

    I would suggest you get a qualified electrician in to sort out your electrics. Without first seeing what you actually do have, no one here can really advise you. You shouldn't mess with electrics if you don't know what you are doing.

    You will need to also ask the supplier to arrange for a meter removal/exchange, for which a cost may well apply. The supplier will provide details of this if applicable.
  • blueperil
    blueperil Posts: 25 Forumite
    Thanks Wywth, yes I would call in an electrician, didn't mean to give the impression I would be attempting this myself.
  • Wywth
    Wywth Posts: 5,079 Forumite
    You are correct about not changing supplier.

    I always say anyone who attempts to change supplier that is not on a normal single rate or E7 supply will invariably end up in tears (if they do find a supplier thats doesn't know what they are doing and tries to take over your supply)

    Your electricity for heating (and possibly hot water) on a dual metered E10 or similar tariff should cost about half of what it would cost if you were to change (with electrical & metering alterations) to a single rate or even an E7 tariff during the day.

    What unit prices are you being charged?
  • rogerblack
    rogerblack Posts: 9,446 Forumite
    blueperil wrote: »
    Hi All,
    I have read a lot of threads on the site regarding RHT meters but haven't seen a conclusive answer in how to merge the feeds into one meter.
    .

    Do you have gas, or some other source of main heating?
  • blueperil
    blueperil Posts: 25 Forumite
    rogerblack wrote: »
    Do you have gas, or some other source of main heating?

    Hi Roger, the property is electric only. The underfloor is ok at times but it's easier and quicker to use an electric heater most of the time.
  • blueperil
    blueperil Posts: 25 Forumite
    Wywth wrote: »
    You are correct about not changing supplier.

    I always say anyone who attempts to change supplier that is not on a normal single rate or E7 supply will invariably end up in tears (if they do find a supplier thats doesn't know what they are doing and tries to take over your supply)

    Your electricity for heating (and possibly hot water) on a dual metered E10 or similar tariff should cost about half of what it would cost if you were to change (with electrical & metering alterations) to a single rate or even an E7 tariff during the day.

    What unit prices are you being charged?

    e-on new rates will be:

    standard
    standing charge of 27p/day
    unit charge of 14.07p/kWh

    RHT
    standing charge of 8.9p/day
    unit charge of 8.75p/kWh

    almost all of our electric is being used at the standard rate which is a lot higher than the single rate tariffs available elsewhere.
  • Wywth
    Wywth Posts: 5,079 Forumite
    blueperil wrote: »
    e-on new rates will be:

    standard
    standing charge of 27p/day
    unit charge of 14.07p/kWh

    RHT
    standing charge of 8.9p/day
    unit charge of 8.75p/kWh

    almost all of our electric is being used at the standard rate which is a lot higher than the single rate tariffs available elsewhere.

    You won't get a single rate tariff for 8.75p per kWh.
    14.07p is not far off the typical charge for a single rate.
    Underfloor heating (like any heating) uses the most electricity.
    Why are you using more electricity on non-heating than heating? Sounds like a good possibility for economising.
  • Wywth
    Wywth Posts: 5,079 Forumite
    blueperil wrote: »
    Hi Roger, the property is electric only. The underfloor is ok at times but it's easier and quicker to use an electric heater most of the time.
    If you are using this heater on the high tariff rate, that is why it is costing you so much.

    It may be easier, but it'll cost you a small fortune to heat any property using electric unless you take advantage of the low rates available.
  • blueperil
    blueperil Posts: 25 Forumite
    edited 4 January 2013 at 7:17PM
    Wywth wrote: »
    You won't get a single rate tariff for 8.75p per kWh.
    14.07p is not far off the typical charge for a single rate.
    Underfloor heating (like any heating) uses the most electricity.
    Why are you using more electricity on non-heating than heating? Sounds like a good possibility for economising.

    ? because we don't use much heating? not sure what this has to do with my original query about removing the meter. I have looked at our usage and 90% is non heating/on the standard tariff. Co-op standard is 11.60 plus lower standing charge, their fixed rate is even lower. I've done the maths and having all usage on a single tariff is over £200 a year cheaper.
  • blueperil
    blueperil Posts: 25 Forumite
    Wywth wrote: »
    If you are using this heater on the high tariff rate, that is why it is costing you so much.

    It may be easier, but it'll cost you a small fortune to heat any property using electric unless you take advantage of the low rates available.

    no it isn't, consumption & bills are lower than when using the underfloor.

    & yes, I would like to take advantage of the lower rates available, hence the original post.
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