Labour To Bring In Proper Paid Guaranteed Jobs For Jobless Long Termers

Generali

DecentLivingWage wrote: »

Labour is planning to roll out a raft of measures to ensure long term unemployed work seekers are offered a proper Paid job for an initial six months. These new workers will be paid at the Minimum Wage, not suffering the demeaning,humiliating,low self-esteem causing 'jobs' which the coalition have been trying to offer for benefits. Labour are saying that anyone who fails to take up this great opportunity without serious good reason (eg genuine disability) will face losing benefits.

Hopefully this will raise optimism in the economy as workers start to invest in the homes and futures and at last boost growth! Under the present coalition, the deficit is rising ever-upwards as the economy sinks. (Frightened Broke Voters Dont Spend.) If it worked in the US, well it seems Obama Right,Osborne Wrong?

Heres the details of Labours Guaranteed Jobs For Minimum Wage to bring hope for anyone out there who I know is genuinely desperate for work - despite the sneers of the Cons coalition we have for the moment :

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/jan/04/ed-balls-welfare-work-scheme

Who pays?

Idiot.

Out,_Vile_Jelly

I can't imagine anything worse than having to work alongside some unemployable bozo who got the "job" as a political gimmick. If they turn out to be a total liability, can they be sacked before the six months is up?

DecentLivingWage

andyroberts1967 wrote: »

This is a brilliant idea by Labour, and I bet the Coalition are kicking themselves for not thinking of it sooner. I'm just a bit worried that the Coalition will turn round and steal some of Labour's ideas. Labour should hang on until nearer the election (just over 2 years thank God) and float them at that time. This Government is a disaster and I can't wait to see the back of them!

That was exactly my worry too Andy! However, one thing to remember is .....

We Might Not Be Mid Term !!!!

(... i hear rumblings in the lib dem camp... NoConfidenceVote could bring down the coalition 'government.' People like us just need to do our bit and keep refuting the lies, using social media etc as media are dumbing down Osbornes mistake!

CLAPTON

It's quite difficult to tell whether he/she is

- a paid/unpaid agent of the tories to make black propoganda against Labour
- a paid/unpaid agent of Labour some of whom might actually believe some of this stuff (unlikely I know but stanger things happen).
- a troll having a bit of harmless fun

Generali

DecentLivingWage wrote: »

That was exactly my worry too Andy! However, one thing to remember is .....

We Might Not Be Mid Term !!!!

(... i hear rumblings in the lib dem camp... NoConfidenceVote could bring down the coalition 'government.' People like us just need to do our bit and keep refuting the lies, using social media etc as media are dumbing down Osbornes mistake!

Thanks Walt* Clearly this idiot is an ideologue as well as being a fantasist. The 2 things aren't mutually exclusive.



*See what I mean chewy? I hear rumblings. We really are in a world of fantasy with DLW and his child abuse loving sockies. If DLW had some sort of inside track (s)he'd be writing for The Times not Richarding about on here.

Generali

CLAPTON wrote: »

It's quite difficult to tell whether he/she is

- a paid/unpaid agent of the tories to make black propoganda against Labour
- a paid/unpaid agent of Labour some of whom might actually believe some of this stuff (unlikely I know but stanger things happen).
- a troll having a bit of harmless fun

All perfectly possible.

On reflection I think it could be Bruno as there is some linguistic stuff to point that way.

It's the same for DLW and BertieUK.

Jennifer_Jane

CLAPTON wrote: »

It's quite difficult to tell whether he/she is

- a paid/unpaid agent of the tories to make black propoganda against Labour
- a paid/unpaid agent of Labour some of whom might actually believe some of this stuff (unlikely I know but stanger things happen).
- a troll having a bit of harmless fun

I'd go for troll, because there are 16 people currently viewing this board. So essentially her evangelical message is simply being wasted. Especially as the more she posts her drivel, the more entrenched I become as a Coalition supporter.

As DLW has been posting since early this a.m. and up to 10:30 at least, I would guess that she is either a shift worker or on benefits herself.

I wonder which.

Jennifer_Jane

DecentLivingWage wrote: »

Labour is planning to roll out a raft of measures to ensure long term unemployed work seekers are offered a proper Paid job for an initial six months. These new workers will be paid at the Minimum Wage, not suffering the demeaning,humiliating,low self-esteem causing 'jobs' which the coalition have been trying to offer for benefits. Labour are saying that anyone who fails to take up this great opportunity without serious good reason (eg genuine disability) will face losing benefits.

Hopefully this will raise optimism in the economy as workers start to invest in the homes and futures and at last boost growth! Under the present coalition, the deficit is rising ever-upwards as the economy sinks. (Frightened Broke Voters Dont Spend.) If it worked in the US, well it seems Obama Right,Osborne Wrong?

Heres the details of Labours Guaranteed Jobs For Minimum Wage to bring hope for anyone out there who I know is genuinely desperate for work - despite the sneers of the Cons coalition we have for the moment :

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/jan/04/ed-balls-welfare-work-scheme

DLW - you may not be aware, but most people in jobs "suffer" these things every single day. It's the nature of the boss/employee relationship unfortunately. Very few workers think of their jobs as "fun" and we are lucky if we find them satisfying.

There are benefits (not welfare benefits) in being employed, however, and that is self-esteem, contributing to society, building an independent financial background resulting in the freedom to do what you like with your money, and the opportunity to become better off than those stuck on welfare benefits.

The interesting part of this post, however, is that it clearly states that Labour would/will remove benefits from people failing to take up "this great opportunity". So Labour will also be strict on benefits when they get in in 2015, which I have no doubt they will do.

*Scroungers - your days are numbered.

*(PS for genuine people in difficulty, this comment does not apply to you. Let's hope that more people in genuine difficulty can be helped with some of the savings from giving money to scroungers and benefit fraudsters)

BertieUK

By golly, there will be a complaint from your local councill for the amount of toys that many of you are throwing out of your prams, please do not throw the baby out with the bath water.

No doubt we will return to normal sound and vision soon.

GeorgeHowell

As several have already asked -- what jobs ?

Are we talking about more non-jobs in the public sector (eg street football coordinators). Or are Tesco for example to be subsidised into taking on more shelf stackers (an idea hated by the lefties when moored before) ?

Will the trade unions accept it -- they hate anyone just being paid the minimum wage ?

This idea of partly taxing pension contributions to pay for it -- how many jobs will it buy ? Has it been costed ?

I saw a number of 130,000 quoted -- isn't that a drop in the ocean compared with the real level of endemic unemployment ? A lot of the reason for it is the lamentable, dumbed down, 'anti-elitist' state education system which turns out so many unemployables. What happens when some can't hack it in the work environment ? Can they be fired ? If so do they still get benefits ?