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RSPCA Exposed.
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Air_Cooled_75 wrote: »They don't have a never ending pot of money to care for animals that the original owners can't be bothered with anymore / have not bothered to get neutered etc. etc.
I refer you to my reply on the other thread.... http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=58324463&postcount=41
The RSPCA wouldn't need to put healthy animals to sleep if it would free up the several millions of £££ it's currently sitting on and offer funding to the various RSPCA kennels and re-homing centres around the country. These are separate charities in their own right and have to raise their own funds locally.
They do not receive any money from central RSPCA which is where most people unwittingly send their donations!
Central RSPCA are nothing but a propaganda machine supporting political activists such as Animal Aid. The ruling council is indeed made up of many AA members!“You can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time.”0 -
Whilst neither defending or attacking the RSPCA wouldnt the whole problem be solved by responsible pet ownership so there are no animals who are unwanted. Having assisted with a dog rescue I cannot believe some of the excuses people give for getting rid of their animals. Yes anyone can make a mistake but not to the extent of the numbers in rescues all over the country and dont even get me started on cruelty.
An animal is a serious responsiibity not a toy to be picked up and put down or given away when it proves inconvenient or even hurt, starved abandoned or any of the other delights that people do to their "beloved" pets and working animals.0 -
So you think nearly all stray cats and dogs, most of whom are never going to be rehomed, should be kept alive at great expense, but you're fine with a fox being chased for miles, until it collapses from exhaustion and then is ripped to pieces by hounds all for the amusement of some sad little psychopaths on horseback?
?? Have you been to a hunt?
Probably not you are only given a sensationalised one sided story that sells papers.debt £17000 balance 1/12/12 £2978.36PPI claims £4183.46savings £1400weight loss 2/18 lbs
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This expose has been a long time coming, and for once the DM have it right. People heavily involved in animal welfare have seen the RSPCA for what they are a very long time ago. Even other rescue centres recommend NOT leaving stray/ found animals in the care of the RSPCA. I'm involved in animal welfare and a priority for me is keeping animals out of the clutches of the RSPCA.
This story unfolded before my eyes: (had to remove link - site won't let me post them yet)
They broke the law in that case, and have gotten away with it unpunished.
Donations that people set up via DD, leave in a will etc go straight to head office rather than into the rescue centres. Not many people know this, and it's convenient for the RSPCA to keep it quiet. The rescue centres are left to struggle by themselves with no funding from head office. As a charity they are incredibly rich and there's simply no excuse for their flippant attitude to euthanasia. Poorer charities operate a no kill policy, it can be done if there is a want to do it.
The RSPCA will put an animal to sleep simply if it's deemed unhomable because it hasn't been snapped up by someone immediately. One of my cats was at a local rehoming centre for 6 months before I adopted her, if she was with the RSPCA then she as a young, healthy animal wouldn't be here with me today. The RSPCA will also PTS for disability or old age, both of which can be lived with and managed. Neither are satisfactory excuses to PTS.
The truth is very much out there if you look for it, and I would urge anyone to ask other charities what their view is on the RSPCA. I donate to my local charities who can't afford big domineering media campaigns but who do manage not to PTS animals unless they are suffering.
Seek and you shall find
(had to remove links, feel free to PM me for them)
No, the DM don't have it right, the article was just an excuse to bash the RSPCA and give the tally ho hunting brigade / CA a voice, every one of the 'RSPCA' workers had a double-barrel name for crying out loud! They probably are just p!$$ed off for some reason or another, maybe because the RSPCA no longer supports hunting. (I know they used to years ago).
Ok, so critisim of the centralised RSPCA. I don't know what people expect. There are so many people in this country that clearly don't have a clue when it comes to looking after animals, be it neglect and/or abuse. How do you think they manage to rescue these animals? Staff, vehicles, vets they aren't free. Give the RSPCA a break, so what if they prosecute people, that's what they are there for and it all costs money. They are taking animals from awful environment but unfortunately not all these animals are going to find new homes. How does the OP suggest all are put out to pasture for the rest of their natural lives? Even with the best will in the world this just isn't going to happen.0 -
~Chameleon~ wrote: »I refer you to my reply on the other thread.... http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=58324463&postcount=41
The RSPCA wouldn't need to put healthy animals to sleep if it would free up the several millions of £££ it's currently sitting on and offer funding to the various RSPCA kennels and re-homing centres around the country. These are separate charities in their own right and have to raise their own funds locally.
They do not receive any money from central RSPCA which is where most people unwittingly send their donations!
Central RSPCA are nothing but a propaganda machine supporting political activists such as Animal Aid. The ruling council is indeed made up of many AA members!
Couldn't have said this better myself.
I volunteer with my local branch and see the struggles they go through on a daily basis just to keep the branch running. They get no funding from the central RSPCA and rely fully on donations, their charity shops, fund raisers and their volunteers.
I invite the RSPCA bashers to read through the blog of one of the RSPCA branches and see just some of what they deal with: http://rspcamcrsalford.blogspot.co.uk/
It's all good and well being armchair bashers, tarnishing the whole of the RSPCA (central, hospitals and branches) with one brush, but how many of you have actually taken the time to spend a day at your local branch or a hospital to see what they deal with, listened to some of the calls and abuse they take for trying to help, dealt with the problems of having animals dumped in their charity shops when they have absolutely no spaces in foster homes/catteries/kennels to house them, struggled to find funds for the monthly vets bill, been inundated with abandoned kittens and not had the food supply/foster parents to hand rear to meet the demand, been put through the heartbreak of trying everything to save an animal that just can't be saved? I imagine not many.
I understand some of you have had bad experiences where the RSPCA was unable to help you or someone you know, but please don't slate all the other branches for this. Each branch differs from how they work, to their policies, to the number of animals and types of animals they can house and they are all separate charities to the central RSPCA.0 -
?? Have you been to a hunt?
Probably not you are only given a sensationalised one sided story that sells papers.
one sided view gezzzz, there is no excuse for fox hunting (culling maybe but that a diff issue), if you want to go out on horseback for a ride thats fine but there is no excuse for chasing & ripping any animal to death in the name of sport or entertainment & please don't come back with all the crap about tradition or the ways of country folk, it's barbaric & should have been banned donkey's yrs ago, do you support that other great entertaining sport bullfighting ?I'm only here while I wait for Corrie to start.
You get no BS from me & if I think you are wrong I WILL tell you.0 -
Whilst neither defending or attacking the RSPCA wouldnt the whole problem be solved by responsible pet ownership so there are no animals who are unwanted. Having assisted with a dog rescue I cannot believe some of the excuses people give for getting rid of their animals. Yes anyone can make a mistake but not to the extent of the numbers in rescues all over the country and dont even get me started on cruelty.
An animal is a serious responsiibity not a toy to be picked up and put down or given away when it proves inconvenient or even hurt, starved abandoned or any of the other delights that people do to their "beloved" pets and working animals.
I agree.
I don't generally give money to the RSPCA as I give to smaller animal sanctuaries usually but I have given a donation after I used the RSPCA rescue service when I had an injured bird.0 -
southcoastrgi wrote: »one sided view gezzzz, there is no excuse for fox hunting (culling maybe but that a diff issue), if you want to go out on horseback for a ride thats fine but there is no excuse for chasing & ripping any animal to death in the name of sport or entertainment & please don't come back with all the crap about tradition or the ways of country folk, it's barbaric & should have been banned donkey's yrs ago, do you support that other great entertaining sport bullfighting ?
Well said.I certainly don't need to go to a hunt to know how cruel it is.
Blood sports.Good name,well the first half is that's for sure.A sport,well that indicates a level playing field,both sides agreeing to participate etc.Don't thnk that applies there.
Of course the RSPCA don't get it right every time.Name me ANY person,charity,company ,what ever,that does.
Just take a look at the countries that don't have such big organisations fighting on behalf of animals.
China,Korea and the Phillipines,who skin animals alive,incarcerate bears for their bile for years,keep dogs and cats in appalling conditions and slaughter them just as cruelly.Japan.Norway and Iceland who harpoon whales ,Spain who torture bulls to a slow death,Pakistan who still believe bear baiting is fun,and ...........well do i need to go on?
If it weren't for all the good the RSPCA have done in the last 150 years we would still be in the dark ages and be as brutal a nation as some others.
It is the fault of those who abuse animals that need our condemnation.0 -
well said Froglet :T:TI'm only here while I wait for Corrie to start.
You get no BS from me & if I think you are wrong I WILL tell you.0
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