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Tattoo's, Piercings and Employment

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  • Jinx
    Jinx Posts: 1,766 Forumite
    Debt-free and Proud!
    My daughter had a lip ring and dermal piercings just above her collar bone - sparkly diamond type ones.

    Employers in customer facing roles asked her to remove the lip ring and the dermal piercings were hidden by a work shirt. Now working in an upmarket place she is not allowed piercings, tattoos that show or a hair colour which could not be natural. So while I loved her vampire red hair (or blue or purple) its now a thing of the past and I can totally understand the employers point of view.

    Personally I dont like ears with the tubes in, think they are repulsive and while I can admire tattoos - some really are works of art- I dont like too many and feel they belong with 'arty' type people rather than mainstream although loads of people now have them.
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  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    In my experience, I have always found alternative people to just be generally well rounded and nicer people... Although I have always felt warmer towards us 'freaks' :D
    Why do people think its only alt people who have tattoos though
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  • Jinx
    Jinx Posts: 1,766 Forumite
    Debt-free and Proud!
    AP007 wrote: »
    What do you think of people with disfigurements then? A large burn on the face or a birth mark? I find that statement that it is a disfigurement offensive.

    Its not the same thing....... Tiddlywinks was giving her opinion on tattoos/piercings which are lets face it are self-inflicted (well requested and paid for!) whereas a burn or birth mark is not.
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  • I wouldnt be bothered if someone in a job had a bolt through their neck or looked like one of the members of the Jim Rose Cirus sideshow( anyone remember that?).
    The main thing for me is that the person is pleasant and does the job properly.Not whether they have a tattoo or a piercing for gods sake!
  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    Jinx wrote: »
    Its not the same thing....... Tiddlywinks was giving her opinion on tattoos/piercings which are lets face it are self-inflicted (well requested and paid for!) whereas a burn or birth mark is not.
    And how many people have you seen with a burn or a birth mark on their face in a customer facing role? I have seen none.

    I bet there are just as many people who find real disfigurements just as offensive. Hence not seeing many in the work place. Like the girl who got a job at A&F and when they found out she had a false arm out her out the back in the stock room!!! :mad:
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  • AP007 wrote: »
    What do you think of people with disfigurements then? A large burn on the face or a birth mark? I find that statement that it is a disfigurement offensive.

    My brother is a fully qualified, senior pensions officer for a large firm in London and has been in this field for over 12 years and he is covered in tattoos. I know with his suit on you can not see them but thats a poor judgement to make of someone you do not know. As long as they do the job you have engaged them to do well I see no problem with it.

    Firstly, you know very well that I was not referring to someone with a disfigurement caused by burns or a medical condition... my opinion is still that a self imposed change of someone's facial features is, to me, a disfigurement.

    The OP asked for opinions so that is what I provided - MY opinion...

    As to your brother, ask yourself why he chose to have his tattoos in places that are not visable... it's probably because he knows that he is an industry where judgements would be made about him if his tattoos were on show.
    :hello:
  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    edited 29 December 2012 at 11:32PM
    Firstly, you know very well that I was not referring to someone with a disfigurement caused by burns or a medical condition... my opinion is still that a self imposed change of someone's facial features is, to me, a disfigurement.

    The OP asked for opinions so that is what I provided - MY opinion...

    As to your brother, ask yourself why he chose to have his tattoos in places that are not visable... it's probably because he knows that he is an industry where judgements would be made about him if his tattoos were on show.
    Sorry but why would anyone have a tattoo on their face? Everyone at his office knows he has tattoos but he is not that silly to have one on his face. Where he has them however is his business an no one elses unless it causes a problem at his work.
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  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    edited 29 December 2012 at 11:33PM
    PS

    One actually is a tiny bit visible on his wrist just where his shirt ends.

    His plans were to never have a tattoo on his face but he does have a plug in his ear which is does take out for meetings.
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  • AP007 wrote: »
    Sorry but would anyone have a tattoo on their face? Everyone at his office knows he has tattoos but he is not that silly to have one on his face. Where he has them however is his business an no one elses unless it causes a problem at his work.

    Refer back to the original post... it mentions facial and body piercings as well as tattoos and was specifically asking for opinions relating to employment / customer reactions and feedback.

    Back to your brother, as you say, it is up to him where he has his tattoos... however, he has chosen to avoid visable tattoos which is a fact relevant as feedback to the OP on how such marks may affect employability... even you admit that he needs to consider whether it could be 'a problem at his work'.
    :hello:
  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    edited 29 December 2012 at 11:52PM
    Refer back to the original post... it mentions facial and body piercings as well as tattoos and was specifically asking for opinions relating to employment / customer reactions and feedback.

    Back to your brother, as you say, it is up to him where he has his tattoos... however, he has chosen to avoid visable tattoos which is a fact relevant as feedback to the OP on how such marks may affect employability... even you admit that he needs to consider whether it could be 'a problem at his work'.
    yeah and to think the OP has a bad opinon of the unemployed and may well end up that way too when they dye their hair a white blonde and have some more facial piercings and a tattoo on their chest :)
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