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Evicting Son

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  • OP I dearly hope the waiting-lists aren't as long in your borough as they are in mine or your son and his g/f will be in a cockroach infested B&B accommodation for a very long time IF they are accepted onto the list, that is. If all it took was a letter from your Mum to be able to get our hands on secure, affordable housing we'd all be at it.
  • charlies-aunt
    charlies-aunt Posts: 1,605 Forumite
    edited 29 December 2012 at 10:46PM
    Sajane wrote: »
    HE wants the eviction, and he's making things pretty uncomfortable to say the least!
    He has got his g/f pregnant and as I didn't agree to her moving in here (Her parents want her out by the time the baby is born) ...I'm a prison custody officer, work very early and long shifts, my youngest is soon to take his GCSE's, so all in all I didn't think it to be fair

    Your son is classed as an "excluded occupier" and as such has less legal protection that a tenant so it is relatively easy to evict him - give him reasonable notice that you want him to leave and if he is still there when the notice expires, you can change the locks whilst he is out,remove his belongings from his room & place them outside

    However, a word of caution - if he is evicted by you because he has not paid the agreed rent - he will not be automatically be entitled to be rehoused by the local council because they may decide that he is intentionally homeless - he deliberately didn't do something that has caused him to become homeless (i.e. if he didn't pay you the rent when he could have afforded to )
    -and-
    he would have to prove "vulnerability" - he would have to demonstrate good reason/cause why he (as a young, single adult) is not capable of securing accomodation himself

    Its a tough situation - hope you can work things out as a family
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  • embob74
    embob74 Posts: 724 Forumite
    Most councils now have such a shortage of social housing that they will not even consider somebody unless they are actually homeless, not just with the threat of it, and so nothing will happen until the day he leaves/ is kicked out.
    A person must not have made themselves intentionally homeless so if he chooses to leave your home they will not house him and likewise if he chooses not to pay his way leaving you no option but to ask him to leave.
    Govt cuts have meant a huge shortage of homeless or temp accommodation so as a single man he may not even be given any assistance. If he were to apply with his gf they will not consider them a priority until baby is actually born and once again they must both actually be homeless not just threatened.
    The housing benefit (HB) rules are changing and so people under 25 (might even be 30) will only receive a limited amount of help with their rent so he may be coming in for a BIG shock financially.
    It might be worth posting your thread on the housing (rent and selling) board as there are some very knowledgeable people there and the benefits board for info on HB.
    You can check out your local councils housing allowance to see what financial help with rent might be available and if you do an online calculator with future income figures for son, gf and baby you should have an idea of how little they will be living on. Might be an eye opener for him to see but then again he will find it all out when he puts his plan into practice.
    Shame he couldn't just save up and rent somewhere for his new family like millions of others have to.
  • Person_one
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    embob74 wrote: »
    Shame he couldn't just save up and rent somewhere for his new family like millions of others have to.

    He's on an apprentice wage, its a pittance, well below NMW.

    The rest of your post is spot on.
  • McKneff
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    Person_one wrote: »
    He's on an apprentice wage, its a pittance, well below NMW.

    The rest of your post is spot on.

    Well, there wouold be two of them, pregnancy doesnt stop you working.

    I worked till 2 weeks before mine were born.
    make the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
    and we will never, ever return.
  • KxMx
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    McKneff wrote: »
    Well, there wouold be two of them, pregnancy doesnt stop you working.

    I worked till 2 weeks before mine were born.

    In fairness pregnancy usually is not considered an illness, but not everyone is the same and it's shocking just how ill a friend of mine has been since week 12, they are inducing her early things are so bad. Baby is fine she is not!

    So please don't assume every pregnant lady is in perfect health and can work up until 2 weeks before baby is born as you were lucky enough to experience.
  • j.e.j.
    j.e.j. Posts: 9,672 Forumite
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    McKneff wrote: »
    I worked till 2 weeks before mine were born.
    congratulations :cool:

    It's not clear from the OP whether the girlfriend is working or even if the two of them are going to move in together. I assumed that's what they were planning on doing, but all SaJane has said is that he wants an eviction notice? As a single applicant I can't see the council giving him priority housing, tbh. It would be in their interest to apply as a couple, especially with a baby on the way, but it depends a lot on the area and the council concerned.
  • eamon
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    The OP's son & his pregnant gf are in for a real shock. I can tell that there has been little thought going on. Harsh lessons are going to be learned.
    LA's have statutory housing duties but that is all.
  • Welshwoofs
    Welshwoofs Posts: 11,146 Forumite
    I booted my ex out 18 months ago and that made him homeless. 18 months later he is still shuttling between homeless hostels and has been told there is essentially zero chance of a single man gaining any social housing.

    Unless your son is in an area with social stock to spare, I'd say he has a cat in hell's chance of getting social housing as a single, 20yr old man who's working (albeit on a low wage).

    I have a feeling your son is about to learn that life is tough and knocking up girls in an attempt to ease the situation isn't the smartest of moves.
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  • Our daughter and her boyfriend lived with us, she was pregnant and they slept on the sofa as we didn't have a spare room, I went with her to our local housing advice center and told them that I wanted them out as we didn't have the room and it was depressing for us to have to get up and sit in the kitchen untill they decided to get up off the sofa.

    The housing woman said unless they were on the street they wouldn't be considered for help so the next day they turned up at the center with all their bags and a letter from me stating I had evicted them.

    Things didn't turn out the way any of us thought, they were put in emergency housing which was a terrible cold damp flat above a printers shop, it was really bad and I told them to come back home, they were told to stay put untill the baby was born and then they would get a HA flat, so 6 months later the baby was born, they were then told they had to wait untill the baby was a year old before they would move up the list.

    I couldn't let the baby stay there so I had her during the day and she slept in the flat at night, they couldn't stand it any longer though so I got a loan and paid the deposit on a flat for them.

    They got married, my son in law got a good job and paid me back, they are still in the same flat 3 years later with no chance of getting a HA place.

    So if the OPs son has got it into his head that he can be evicted and given a nice cheap flat straight away he is in for a huge shock!
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