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Baby Boomers at it Again
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Graham_Devon wrote: »I've given up.
Kudo's to anyone who tries to make any point which doesn't make out young people are all vile bottom feeders.
... or that Baby Boomers are all affluent leeches who have operated a giant conspiracy all their lives to destroy the world for future generations.No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
Margaret Thatcher0 -
I agree completely, but people who are in unfair situations do tend to grumble.
I have worked against it and got there, but I will still argue the point it was harder than it was for my parents.
This is a direct comparison as its in the same area and I have a house very similar in size to my parents.
Parents where full time security and part time check out operator to get the house.
We are a full time accountant and full time teaching assistant to get a similar house.
Yes my TV is bigger than theres was at the time and I have a smart phone they didn't, but in relative terms my TV and smart phone cost about the same as there TV and phone line. They could afford upto date technology as can we.
Good job I used the phrase 'for many its starting to get out of reach'
It was quite clearly well within reach for me, hence I found it quite easy to find the motivation to make it happen.
It's no good going on about your parents it sounds like they were lucky and bought when prices were low. When I first bought my wife and I both had good full time jobs and we really struggled and had to move 20miles to be able to buy and if we had not bought then we would have had to wait a very long time.0 -
Graham_Devon wrote: »I've given up.
Kudo's to anyone who tries to make any point which doesn't make out young people are all vile bottom feeders.
I don't think anyone has ever said that.0 -
I don't think anyone has ever said that.
Probably not. But there are some unpleasant little scrotes who think it's fair game to post some nasty, hysterical, ageist, sexist, and often quasi-Marxist diatribes in the hope of upsetting, unsettling, and intimidating older people who post predominantly in a civilised and reasonably courteous fashion. They have found of course that not everyone is a cowering old buffer who will withdraw trembling with their tail between their legs. In the words of one infamous and recently deceased old git : "They don't like it up 'em Captain Mainwaring !"No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
Margaret Thatcher0 -
Graham_Devon wrote: »
Our H&S advisor suggested we now have to service our cars on time and have proof (DIY won't count), and have a check every 6 months to cover the employer for health and safety when carrying out business mileage. I.e. we could claim against the employer if we have an accident in our own cars due to bad maintenance. Theres no way any single one of us will do that at the mometn....but it's coming...just need more people succesfully suing their companies, and that will be a personal expense again.
How much mileage do you get? That should reflect the need to keep your car roadworthy, and maintained in addition to fuel.
If you feel that is not sufficient then stop using your car. Tell them you need a hire car/pool car then if they need you to work at remote sites.
Is use of your own vehicle written into your contract?
Why is this the fault of the boomers?"If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
There was still "stuff" to buy, places to see, when we were looking to move out and buy a house!!;) I am only just over 50!! Clearly it was not the same stuff but it was comparable in price, but we made a choice. The choice was that we would save and buy a house and then buy stuff and go places, which is what we did.
When we did by stuff and fluff we only tended to buy one instance of it, once, until it couldn't be repaired.
We have all being coerced into greater consumerism, that is what keeps the plates spinning, the degree to which we do it differs. The younger generations have been fully conditioned to it , those a little older. more cynical resist it more."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
grizzly1911 wrote: »Why is this the fault of the boomers?
It's got to the point where the boomer-bashing has become a mantra for all ills -- reminiscent of Cato the Elder's : Carthage Must Be Destroyed
They have to have someone to blame for all the economic woes that befall them, and they can't put the blame where it largely belongs -- the Labour government -- because most of the the moaners are lefties. Those of a different political persuasion are more inclined to roll up their sleeves and get on with it, as opposed to looking for something to be taken away from someone else so that they can have it laid on a plate.
I started and entitled this thread primarily to draw attention to and to de-bunk this idiocy.No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
Margaret Thatcher0 -
Graham_Devon wrote: »I've given up.
Kudo's to anyone who tries to make any point which doesn't make out young people are all vile bottom feeders.
I certainly don't think young people are all vile bottom feeders. Some whinge and aren't happy that (older) people have more than they do and I imagine some will never be satisfied - but you have that in every generation.
Each generation has had it's own problems, an idea you seem unwilling even to acknowledge.
For my grandparents it was unemployment, leaving school at 12 to go to work in the pits, getting any sort of decent housing not tied to employment and subject to eviction at a moments notice, any sort of rights at work and being able to afford to visit the doctor. (They never owned a house or had any aspirations to, or indeed the money).
For my parents it was getting decent housing, any sort of rights at work but fortunately (as adults) they didn't have to pay to visit a doctor.
Me, housing, unemployment and high interest rates.
My children, housing. Unemployment is low where they live (Wokingham district is about 1.3%).
I would imagine most of the above is fairly typical of the average family from the turn of the 20th century to date.
In OH's family substitute mines for mills.
Some things are better and some things worse but most things are better.0 -
How many times can the people on this part of the forum have the same tired argument?GeorgeHowell wrote: »Everything said in this context is a generalisation of course. But I do believe that a large proportion of younger people (say under 40) cannot grasp the concept of building up a standard of living and feel entitled to have everything they are ever going to have now. That is not the real world, I'm afraid, but it can be explained in part by the fact that misguided parenting by their parents -- predominantly the boomers -- allowed them to grow up with this perception : if you ask for something you get it immediately.
Oh for heaven's sake, I am in that age bracket and that is a massive stereotype.0 -
RevolvingDoor wrote: »How many times can the people on this part of the forum have the same tired argument?
Oh for heaven's sake, I am in that age bracket and that is a massive stereotype.
As many times as we choose to, I guess.
It did say a large proportion, not everyone. And some stereotypes do have some validity, that's why they exist. If you are one of the ones who are different, good luck to you. you have nothing to worry about.
Perhaps you'd now like to make a similar, largely irrelevant comment about the posters who are stereotyping older people.No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
Margaret Thatcher0
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