is it ok to jump a red when there are no cars or traffic around

Dave_C_2

Tilt wrote: »

There's no hope for you then.

Dosn't matter what you say, iv'e seen more cyclists break the traffic laws on a daily basis than other road users.

When I was on the motorway the other day, every car that passed my car when I was driving at 70 mph was breaking the law. Poor visibility and a lot of cars without headlights didn't help.

Not one cyclist to be seen

Dave

RichardD1970

Tilt wrote: »

There's no hope for you then.

Dosn't matter what you say, iv'e seen more cyclists break the traffic laws on a daily basis than other road users.

That's because it's easier to get away with it, if they could do it in cars they would!

Why is there no hope for me then? I've recounted one offence over 20 years ago, before I drove. Since then I have had 20 years driving with a totally clean licence.

If it doesn't matter what I say, why are you replying?
I could say the same about what you say, I see a lot more drivers, driving badly than cyclists, cycling badly, but that is my personal experience and I don't need it validating by you!

I still stand by what I say, if you are an a$$hole cyclist you will be an a$$hole driver.

Dave_C_2

buzi wrote: »

but thats the problem, anyone can jump on a bike and cycle on a road, why is it that all other road users must pass tests to travel on the roads but cyclists dont!!

Please remember that the majority of adult cyclists are also drivers who have passed the driving test.

According to the Highway code, pedestrians and horse riders are also vulnerable road users - no need for a test for those!

The most vulnerable road users are pedestrians, particularly children, older or disabled people, cyclists, motorcyclists and horse riders.

Perhaps the need for a test for motorists is there because they drive huge lumps of metal at relatively high speeds and cause hundreds of deaths on Britain's roads. And in the main these are the ones that have passed the test!

Dave

passatrider

It's just another example of irresponsible driving on the roads just because you can't wait for a few more seconds.

Whatever next- Optional use of Indicators?? Oh, hang on this already happens!

Clioterus

On certain junctions if it is clear you should be able to turn left on red just like in the USA it would help ease congestion.

kazmeister

skivenov wrote: »

GREEN = Proceed if it is safe to do so.

I know this because I once didn't proceed at a green light due to someone walking out in front of me. The car behind me on the other hand took the green light to be a starting pistol. That was an expensive education for him as we extracted his radiator from my towbar :doh:

You are absolutely correct, I was just trying to make it easy for those who cant grasp the basics

Tilt

Dave_C wrote: »

When I was on the motorway the other day, every car that passed my car when I was driving at 70 mph was breaking the law. Poor visibility and a lot of cars without headlights didn't help.

Not one cyclist to be seen

Dave

It's a wonder!

real1314

derrick wrote: »

You did, as you did not receive a ticket!

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It's not just cyclists...

I got a ticking off for doing a red light in my car at 5.50am, having checked that there was nothing coming (decent view of all directions). Plod was pretty decent, but I did go with the "it's a fair cop, no arguments on pulling me for it" approach. He told me a younger copper would have issued a pcn, and that the risk wasn't worth it, so I don't bother any more.

On the subject of being able to "trigger" lights, I know of one local set that triggers from pressure pads outside of rush-hour times, and I'm almost certain temporary lights can be triggered by headlights. :cool:

Money_Grabber13579

Of course it's okay to go through a red light if they is no one else about. It's also okay to drive through towns at 100MPH when no kids are about...

Why does it make any difference who's about? Would you burgle someone's house if nobody was looking?:huh::huh::huh:

prowla

Money_Grabber13579 wrote: »

Of course it's okay to go through a red light if they is no one else about. It's also okay to drive through towns at 100MPH when no kids are about...

Why does it make any difference who's about? Would you burgle someone's house if nobody was looking?:huh::huh::huh:

It's not really the same thing at all.

100 mph is not likely to be a safe speed to yourself and others driving through a town, and you wouldn't have the thinking time to deal with a situation.

And equating it with burgling somebody's house is really pushing the limits.

If visibility is good and it is absolutely clear that there is nobody coming the other way, then it is fundamentally safe to go through that red light.

Of course, you are breaking the rules and leaving yourself open to being caught.

And the downside is the knock on effect of it becoming commonplace; first somebody does it when it is absolutely clear, then it becomes common knowledge, the somebody follows them through, and one day - KERRRUNCH!!!

The law is not always right, but sometimes there are good reasons for it.